I have a 1984 41 and I love it. The hull is not a tortured IOR shape. It is
fairly clean. She moves through the water very cleanly. She sails well in
light or heavy air. She is perfectly balanced. She will sail upwind with
the wheel brake on and sail like on an auto pilot. The Dollar/Boatspeed
ratio is very high. I love the interior. Granted, she doesn't have as much
room as a modern 41 foot boat but it is well laid out and proportioned
well. I love the Nav Station/Office. I put plywood "fillers" in the cockpit
to extend the seating for cruising. I wouldn't cruise without them. I
cannot cruise long distances in a slow boat or one that cannot go
upwind.The 41 suits my purposes just fine.

Glenn Henderson


On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:01 PM G Donald Wagner via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dave
>
> I own a C&C 41 CB hull # 93, Der Baron. Bought her new in 1986, and have
> cruised/raced her ever since. We have enjoyed every minute aboard.
> Many trophies, and many fine memories. My  crew and I , mostly very senior
> citizens, are not able to sail very much, so, I am considering the
> possibility of putting her up for sale.
>
> If you have any specific questions about C&C 41s, I can answer most of
> them. They are great boats, easily sailed, and sail to the PHRF  Rating
> here on the Chesapeake.
> Feel free to call me, 443-994-5669, and We can talk about C&C 41s. I'm a
> dedicated C&Cer, Having previously owned a C&C 30 for 12 years prior to
> purchasing the 41.
>
> Never had a Keel/ mast step issue on the 41 . I did experience it on the
> 30.
> My boat is essentially like the standard brochure:
>     Tall 3 spreader rig
>     Yanmar 3GM35 HF
>    Forward facing Nav Station
>    aft quarter berth
>     Full spinnaker Gear with winch upgrades.
>
> Yes, windows have been a problem, and I have had them replaced. You need
> to pay attention to them.
> I've up graded the track hardware, traveller hardware, the spinnaker pole
> (carbon fiber), the electronics, etc.
> The rig has been unstepped, inspected, stripped, and repainted with
> Awl-Grip.
> The hatches have been stripped, and powder coated prior to replacing the
> acrylic lenses
>
> Don Wagner
> C&C 41 CB Der Baron
> West River, MD
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 8:41 pm
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 41 thoughts?
>
>
>
>
> Good evening all.
>
> Am looking to stretch out a bit, and much as I’ve enjoyed and invested in
> my ’85 33-2 Windstar, I’m exploring larger options.  Goal is shorthanded or
> singlehanded daysailing and local cruising on the great lakes and possibly
> Bahamas/Caribbean.  I’ll likely upgrade to a more substantial passagemaker
> when I retire in 5 years or so.
>
> A centreboard C&C 41 has piqued my interest of late, and if anyone can
> shed some light on the evolution of the model and offer some informed
> commentary or critique, I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> I cannot find any reference to how many 41s were made, and I have not seen
> any for sale that were made prior to ’84, though apparently it was first
> produced in ’81.
>
> They were available with a variety of keels, mostly 7’ or more.
>
> Photos of the earliest 41’s especially are very familiar to me, clearly
> they are big sisters to  the 33-2 and 35-3, sharing many features, hardware
> and materials.
>
> I am aware too that the 41 also shares a few of the 33-2/35-3 “gotchas” –
> leaking windows and keel sump/mast step failures.   Is the keel sump/mast
> step problem limited to fin-keeled boats, or is this also a problem with
> centreboard boats?
>
> Some seem to have had the handy but butt-cracking bridge deck traveller
> (like the 33-2) filled with teak and relocated.  Brochures show the
> traveller at the wheel and also on the cabin top.  Was traveller location
> an option, or have many owners relocated this in the interest of comfort?
> Thoughts?
>
> Some have forward-facing nav stations, with the typical smaller boat open
> quarter berth, some (seemingly  later models) with the bigger-boat
>  rear-facing  nav station and an “aft cabin”  (more like an enclosed
> quarter berth)
>
> Some have with an opening tailgate through the transom, some not.
>
> The galley cabinetry appears to have varied also.
>
> And finally – a google search will turn up a fair bit of criticism of the
> model, this surprised me.  Much of it is the usual opinion-fuelled opinion
> (repeated ad nauseam), and some the usual sweeping generalizations
> regarding IOR boats.  (I don’t plan to fly a spinnaker downwind in huge
> seas....)  Wikipedia curiously states:    “Designed by Robert Ball at the
> request of C&C’s new owner Robert plaxton, who wanted [an IOR design]”
> Many commentators also suggest that the 41 is particularly racing-biased,
> and therefore makes a less than ideal choice for single or shorthanded
> sailing.   The brochure suggests the 41 was a production development of a
> custom racing model.
>
> I will likely visit the boat this week, and can certainly form my own
> opinion much of this, but would very much welcome any thoughts.   Many
> thanks in advance!
>
> Dave  -  33-2 (for now).
>
>
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