Dave
I own a C&C 41 CB hull # 93, Der Baron. Bought her new in 1986, and have 
cruised/raced her ever since. We have enjoyed every minute aboard.Many 
trophies, and many fine memories. My  crew and I , mostly very senior citizens, 
are not able to sail very much, so, I am considering the possibility of putting 
her up for sale.
If you have any specific questions about C&C 41s, I can answer most of them. 
They are great boats, easily sailed, and sail to the PHRF  Rating here on the 
Chesapeake. Feel free to call me, 443-994-5669, and We can talk about C&C 41s. 
I'm a dedicated C&Cer, Having previously owned a C&C 30 for 12 years prior to 
purchasing the 41.
Never had a Keel/ mast step issue on the 41 . I did experience it on the 30.My 
boat is essentially like the standard brochure:    Tall 3 spreader rig    
Yanmar 3GM35 HF    Forward facing Nav Station   aft quarter berth
    Full spinnaker Gear with winch upgrades.
Yes, windows have been a problem, and I have had them replaced. You need to pay 
attention to them.I've up graded the track hardware, traveller hardware, the 
spinnaker pole (carbon fiber), the electronics, etc.The rig has been unstepped, 
inspected, stripped, and repainted with Awl-Grip.The hatches have been 
stripped, and powder coated prior to replacing the acrylic lenses
Don WagnerC&C 41 CB Der Baron West River, MD



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Subject: Stus-List C&C 41 thoughts?



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div.yiv0472278651WordSection1 {}-->Good evening all.  Am looking to stretch out 
a bit, and much as I’ve enjoyed and invested in my ’85 33-2 Windstar, I’m 
exploring larger options.  Goal is shorthanded or singlehanded daysailing and 
local cruising on the great lakes and possibly Bahamas/Caribbean.  I’ll likely 
upgrade to a more substantial passagemaker when I retire in 5 years or so.      
A centreboard C&C 41 has piqued my interest of late, and if anyone can shed 
some light on the evolution of the model and offer some informed commentary or 
critique, I would greatly appreciate it.  I cannot find any reference to how 
many 41s were made, and I have not seen any for sale that were made prior to 
’84, though apparently it was first produced in ’81.        They were available 
with a variety of keels, mostly 7’ or more.  Photos of the earliest 41’s 
especially are very familiar to me, clearly they are big sisters to  the 33-2 
and 35-3, sharing many features, hardware and materials.     I am aware too 
that the 41 also shares a few of the 33-2/35-3 “gotchas” – leaking windows and 
keel sump/mast step failures.   Is the keel sump/mast step problem limited to 
fin-keeled boats, or is this also a problem with centreboard boats?  Some seem 
to have had the handy but butt-cracking bridge deck traveller (like the 33-2) 
filled with teak and relocated.  Brochures show the traveller at the wheel and 
also on the cabin top.  Was traveller location an option, or have many owners 
relocated this in the interest of comfort?  Thoughts?    Some have 
forward-facing nav stations, with the typical smaller boat open quarter berth, 
some (seemingly  later models) with the bigger-boat  rear-facing  nav station 
and an “aft cabin”  (more like an enclosed quarter berth)  Some have with an 
opening tailgate through the transom, some not.  The galley cabinetry appears 
to have varied also.  And finally – a google search will turn up a fair bit of 
criticism of the model, this surprised me.  Much of it is the usual 
opinion-fuelled opinion (repeated ad nauseam), and some the usual sweeping 
generalizations regarding IOR boats.  (I don’t plan to fly a spinnaker downwind 
in huge seas....)  Wikipedia curiously states:    “Designed by Robert Ball at 
the request of C&C’s new owner Robert plaxton, who wanted [an IOR design]”Many 
commentators also suggest that the 41 is particularly racing-biased, and 
therefore makes a less than ideal choice for single or shorthanded sailing.   
The brochure suggests the 41 was a production development of a custom racing 
model.    I will likely visit the boat this week, and can certainly form my own 
opinion much of this, but would very much welcome any thoughts.   Many thanks 
in advance!  Dave  -  33-2 (for now).        Sent from Mail for Windows  Thanks 
to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs 
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contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

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