Thanks for the complete and thorough response.

Dave. 

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> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Riley Anderson via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Just to clarify some of the half answers posted previously:
> 
> The wires from the panels to the charge controller must be sized to handle 
> the short circuit current of the entire array (additive if parallel array). 
> Because the maximum current under normal conditions is often ~95% of short 
> circuit current, it is essentially impossible to fuse this side with the 
> industry standard 25% safety factor without having the fuse blow prematurely 
> under normal conditions. 
> 
> The most critical fuse/breaker is on the battery side of the charge 
> controller as the battery bank has a much larger potential to dump high 
> current in a short circuit. This fuse/breaker should be mounted to the charge 
> bus (if available) or as close as possible to the battery.
> 
> However, it is not a bad idea to have a dual pull breaker between panel and 
> charge controller sized at 10-15% > short circuit current. The main purpose 
> of this breaker is to be able to safely disconnect the panels for maintenance 
> or replacement.
> 
> To the original poster:
> How large is your battery bank and how old is it? Lead acid or gel? How large 
> is the solar panel?
> 
> Knowing these paramater can help us narrow down the likely problems. 
> 
> My guess, is that the most likely cause is you had days of cloudy skies after 
> the hurricane and weren't getting any charge. Or your battery bank may be 
> small or aging and unable to accept a trickle charge anymore.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021, 8:44 PM Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>> My 175w and 50w are fused for the gauge of the cable, directly adjacent to 
>> the controller.  This is per the renogy manual I believe.   12 awg solar 
>> cable would be likely fused at 20a (assumes 105deg rated insulation) which 
>> at our 20vdc would translate to a BIG 400w panel.  (C&C 65?)   These bigger 
>> panels are typically 48vdc I believe so the current stays modest.   anyway - 
>> no need to fuse at the solar panel. 
>> 
>> The batteries are connected in parallel with copper bus bars and the 
>> positive wires are protected with cube fuses at the battery.  (Both solar 
>> and shore power Chargers and the cables to the battery switch) 
>> 
>> Dave 33-2
>> 
>> Dave 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 29, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have that end covered. Proper fuses right at the battery terminals. And 
>>> the solar panel is tied to the controller, not the batteries themselves. 
>>> But there is some 25’ of cable from the panel to the controller and I 
>>> always wonder if that part should be protected as well. The solar panel is 
>>> only 50 W, so it cannot produce too much current (and too much heat). But I 
>>> wonder what it the proper way to connect it and protect it.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Marek
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2021 6:26 PM
>>> To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> Cc: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Another Solar question
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Really, should there be a short or other electrical failure, the big source 
>>> of current that would heat up and burn up the wires and possibly set the 
>>> boat on fire, would be the boat's house or starting battery bank.  So the 
>>> fuse should be as close as possible to where the wires from the solar 
>>> panels tie into larger wires or bus bars (or the batteries if wired direct 
>>> to the battery bank).  As close as 6 inches if possible.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Ken H.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 at 19:19, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a simple question - the fuse is there to protect the wire; so, the 
>>> fuse should be as close to the solar panel as possible, shouldn't it? Where 
>>> would you put it? Outside, next to the panel? Or inside, as soon as the 
>>> wire goes through the deck?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I bet there are some rules of thumb.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Marek
>>> 
>>> 1994 C270 Legato
>>> 
>>> Ottawa ON
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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