Same here John ! Race My Etchells and Cruise the 37 :) no no PHRF stuff or agreements we only have 4 in the fleet but first over the line wins - period! super fun ! The whole Etchells package boat trailer and sails in excellent shape I stole for $3500! We Painted last year and Maybe $500 in bits and misc. parts! came with a brand new set of sails Including spin ! which I have not even broken out any of them yet !
John C > On Feb 9, 2021, at 6:04 PM, John McCrea via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > This discussion reinforces my racing program, a J-24 to race and my C&C 36 > to cruise. Sails on the 24 are so much cheaper, and the used market from the > top racers supports the rest of us. I bought a set of North Racing sails > used two days at the 2019 nationals last summer. Purchase price 3k for a > spin, main and black Twaron/Technora class 150.. > > I race with four people tops, two that I bred and are still on the college > payroll and one friend. Less people=less beer and food to buy! We have just > as much fun and have the biggest class of 8-10 boats out of 50 or so on Wed > nights. We used to have a 1989 C&C 37XL and raced that with 8 to ten, very > expensive. All this being said the 36 has two Doyle jibs, a 150 and a 135. I > love the 135! > > John McCrea > > Cluster Duck, J 24 > Talisman, 36-1 > > Mystic, CT > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Risch via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 5:51 PM > To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind > > Bottom line with sails these days is crew. How many and how often. Getting > harder and harder (So I hear) to find consistent good crew. When I raced > with 4 headsails, 3 spinnakers etc. I had 8 on board my 40-2. Son moved on > in life and the adult day camp program ceased. When I do race now its > short-handed or solo. Even a tacking a 135% roller is "fun" in our > Buzzards Bay smokin' SWers when alone or with one. Now that we can get a > rating bump for a 125% will reduce the headsail to the 125%. And I muuch > prefer the minimal logistics and the solitude/focused conversation with the > less is more crew configuration. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:42 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> > Subject: Stus-List New sails, new wind > > Interesting discussion on sail selection. And that is a broad subject. What > kind of racing? > > While I have retired from racing, I clearly remember racing with a sail > inventory....4 head sails (150% light and heavy air...#1, 135%...#2, and a > 100%..#3), 2 spinnakers (systematical 3/4 oz. and a 1/2 oz.). Many races > we (I as the foredeck person) was changing head sails to suit changes > conditions. We sometimes did a spinnaker peel (something we practiced). > The main stayed full until we had to go down to the #3. Much of this racing > was on a C&C 33 MKII and a C&C 34R. > > Where I sail here in Halifax Harbour, Nova Scotia, Canada, there is no one > sail that works best for any given race day. I am now a reacher, not a > racer, but I still know the difference in sail selection for the conditions. > I now sail much of the season with a furled 135%...it is my go to > sail...many days my 100% blade is the sail to have...one day last year, a > fellow lister here that we raced a lot together, was coming with me for an > afternoon sail and he said "it is going to be a light air day, bring your > 155% light air Kevlar today.... I did we dropped the 135% and hoisted the > 155% and it was the right sail for the day. The next day, no way could I > hoist the 155%. > > One head sail for racing is something I have no knowledge and/or experience > in and therefore have no relevant or helpful advice. > > If you wish to race with only one head sail, and your prevailing wind is > around 10 knots true, my best guess would be a 135%. > > Robert Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - #277 > Halifax, N.S. > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. 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