When I changed from a 155 to a 135 genoa, I gained six seconds in PHRF with no significant change in speed. Next I changed to a 110% genoa. I gained another three seconds, slight decrease in speed, but I was able to point five degrees higher. I was able to point higher than everyone else in the fleet, getting to the windward mark a lot sooner than before switching to a 110.
Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:48 AM Debbie Jeffcoatt via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > We race a 80's C&C 37 on Lake Ontario, club races with crew plus a double > handed seriers and switched to a #2 (135%) several years ago, that was > built to roll down to # 3 if needed. Our PHRF was adjusted for the smaller > head sail. We still have the large # 1, but haven't used it since. > Tacking time is a lot quicker and much easier when double handed. Glayva > won Boat of the Year in 2019 with our great crew and this sail. Our > motivation to purchase the # 2, came from a C&C 35 racer in Kingston area. > > Debbie > Glayva II > C&C 37 > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 5:49 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Or keep your old patched 155 and use the 140 for the slightly breezier >> days and forego the reef >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Rod Stright via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* February 9, 2021 5:30:15 AM >> *To:* 'Stus-List' >> *Cc:* Rod Stright >> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind >> >> >> Would you get a PHRF adjustment credit by moving to a 135% Roller Furling >> headsail? >> >> >> >> Rod Stright >> >> Halifax >> >> >> >> *From:* Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* February-09-21 12:23 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Cc:* cenel...@aol.com >> *Subject:* Stus-List New sails, new wind >> >> >> >> Hello all listers. >> >> >> >> I have a hypothetical for the racers among you. >> >> >> >> I need to replace my 3DL headsail--its mostly patches after ~ 5 years of >> club racing locally. This is about my 3rd laminate style headsail---and my >> last! >> >> >> >> I am probably going with the North 3D Nordac which has replaced the >> former 3DL technology with what they call a composite sail--not laminated >> but still built over a 3D mold of the sail shape desired--if I understand >> this correctly. I do not need the super light and costly Raw or Endurance. >> >> >> >> Anyhow, I plan to move to a new sailing area off Southport, NC near Bald >> Head Island at the mouth of the Cape Fear River--basically on the NC coast. >> >> >> >> All my club racing to date has been in the Pamlico and Neuse Rivers, >> occasionally racing to Ocracoke across the Pamlico Sound. For these areas, >> a 155% headsail is the largest you can race with locally without penalty >> and so that is what I have always used. >> >> >> >> The North sail maker suggested because of the higher coastal winds that I >> may not need a 155% since the wind strength is higher at the coast. OTOH, a >> racer there uses a 155% headsail and says he does well with it. >> >> >> >> I checked the historical average wind speed for Southport and New Bern >> and the coastal winds are from 20-25% higher than at New Bern. >> >> For instance, the avg. wind speed varies from 5.5-8.1 knots in New Bern >> vs. about 7-10 knots in Southport, or about 25% higher on average. >> >> >> >> Further, I know from experience that my masthead rig becomes seriously >> overpowered once the wind gets greater than about 12 knots true, when its >> time to reef the main(I only have 1 reef point) and if it goes above ~ 15 >> knots, I need to roll the headsail a few turns (or change down to a 135% or >> 90% headsail). >> >> >> >> I am not inclined to go less than the 155% allowed locally (PHRF) but >> maybe I should--the local North guy suggested ~ 140%. This might better >> match the local wind and is less expensive since less material is used. >> OTOH, I don't want to be under canvassed on the light air days. >> >> >> >> Further, there is the question of sail material weight to consider. >> >> >> >> I plan for this to be my last headsail purchase and may use it some for >> local cruising in addition to club racing. BTW, it will be used on a furler >> either way. >> >> >> >> So what would the listers do!! >> >> >> >> Charlie Nelson >> >> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb >> >> Water Phantom >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help >> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!5WCfoG1FBnS8Rky_8rl9bJJTsfYXaQXKFpIrY6337TgI0SH2MOMFyQS3XKaomxIm994$> >> Thanks - Stu > > > > -- > Debbie Jeffcoatt > cell 416-251-2650 > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!5WCfoG1FBnS8Rky_8rl9bJJTsfYXaQXKFpIrY6337TgI0SH2MOMFyQS3XKaomxIm994$ > Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
