We race a 80's C&C 37 on Lake Ontario, club races with crew plus a double handed seriers and switched to a #2 (135%) several years ago, that was built to roll down to # 3 if needed. Our PHRF was adjusted for the smaller head sail. We still have the large # 1, but haven't used it since. Tacking time is a lot quicker and much easier when double handed. Glayva won Boat of the Year in 2019 with our great crew and this sail. Our motivation to purchase the # 2, came from a C&C 35 racer in Kingston area.
Debbie Glayva II C&C 37 On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 5:49 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Or keep your old patched 155 and use the 140 for the slightly breezier > days and forego the reef > ------------------------------ > *From:* Rod Stright via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* February 9, 2021 5:30:15 AM > *To:* 'Stus-List' > *Cc:* Rod Stright > *Subject:* Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind > > > Would you get a PHRF adjustment credit by moving to a 135% Roller Furling > headsail? > > > > Rod Stright > > Halifax > > > > *From:* Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* February-09-21 12:23 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* cenel...@aol.com > *Subject:* Stus-List New sails, new wind > > > > Hello all listers. > > > > I have a hypothetical for the racers among you. > > > > I need to replace my 3DL headsail--its mostly patches after ~ 5 years of > club racing locally. This is about my 3rd laminate style headsail---and my > last! > > > > I am probably going with the North 3D Nordac which has replaced the former > 3DL technology with what they call a composite sail--not laminated but > still built over a 3D mold of the sail shape desired--if I understand this > correctly. I do not need the super light and costly Raw or Endurance. > > > > Anyhow, I plan to move to a new sailing area off Southport, NC near Bald > Head Island at the mouth of the Cape Fear River--basically on the NC coast. > > > > All my club racing to date has been in the Pamlico and Neuse Rivers, > occasionally racing to Ocracoke across the Pamlico Sound. For these areas, > a 155% headsail is the largest you can race with locally without penalty > and so that is what I have always used. > > > > The North sail maker suggested because of the higher coastal winds that I > may not need a 155% since the wind strength is higher at the coast. OTOH, a > racer there uses a 155% headsail and says he does well with it. > > > > I checked the historical average wind speed for Southport and New Bern and > the coastal winds are from 20-25% higher than at New Bern. > > For instance, the avg. wind speed varies from 5.5-8.1 knots in New Bern > vs. about 7-10 knots in Southport, or about 25% higher on average. > > > > Further, I know from experience that my masthead rig becomes seriously > overpowered once the wind gets greater than about 12 knots true, when its > time to reef the main(I only have 1 reef point) and if it goes above ~ 15 > knots, I need to roll the headsail a few turns (or change down to a 135% or > 90% headsail). > > > > I am not inclined to go less than the 155% allowed locally (PHRF) but > maybe I should--the local North guy suggested ~ 140%. This might better > match the local wind and is less expensive since less material is used. > OTOH, I don't want to be under canvassed on the light air days. > > > > Further, there is the question of sail material weight to consider. > > > > I plan for this to be my last headsail purchase and may use it some for > local cruising in addition to club racing. BTW, it will be used on a furler > either way. > > > > So what would the listers do!! > > > > Charlie Nelson > > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > > Water Phantom > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu -- Debbie Jeffcoatt cell 416-251-2650
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
