I sail with a 155% 3Di composite sail. They are not made to be reefed on a 
furler. If you are overpowered at a ‘moderate’ wind speed, either step it down 
in size, or consider carrying a smaller sail in inventory. That’s why most of 
us club racers are broke...

> On Feb 9, 2021, at 7:08 AM, David Risch via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> As long as you get a rating adjustment go 140-145.   Less cost.  Less wear 
> and tear on boat, crew, sail and rig.   Much more manageable and better shape 
> when  roller furl.  
>  
> From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 5:50 AM
> To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind
>  
> Or keep your old patched 155 and use the 140 for the slightly breezier days 
> and forego the reef
> From: Rod Stright via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: February 9, 2021 5:30:15 AM
> To: 'Stus-List'
> Cc: Rod Stright
> Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind
>  
> Would you get a PHRF adjustment credit by moving to a 135% Roller Furling 
> headsail?
>  
> Rod Stright
> Halifax
>  
> From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Sent: February-09-21 12:23 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: cenel...@aol.com
> Subject: Stus-List New sails, new wind
>  
> Hello all listers. 
>  
> I have a hypothetical for the racers among you. 
>  
> I need to replace my 3DL headsail--its mostly patches after ~ 5 years of club 
> racing locally. This is about my 3rd laminate style headsail---and my last!
>  
> I am probably going with the North 3D Nordac which has replaced the former 
> 3DL technology with what they call a composite sail--not laminated but still 
> built over a 3D mold of the sail shape desired--if I understand this 
> correctly. I do not need the super light and costly Raw or Endurance.
>  
> Anyhow, I plan to move to a new sailing area off Southport, NC near Bald Head 
> Island at the mouth of the Cape Fear River--basically on the NC coast.
>  
> All my club racing to date has been in the Pamlico and Neuse Rivers, 
> occasionally racing to Ocracoke across the Pamlico Sound. For these areas, a 
> 155% headsail is the largest you can race with locally without penalty and so 
> that is what I have always used. 
>  
> The North sail maker suggested because of the higher coastal winds that I may 
> not need a 155% since the wind strength is higher at the coast. OTOH, a racer 
> there uses a 155% headsail and says he does well with it. 
>  
> I checked the historical average wind speed for Southport and New Bern and 
> the coastal winds are from 20-25% higher than at New Bern. 
> For instance, the avg. wind speed varies from 5.5-8.1 knots in New Bern vs. 
> about 7-10 knots in Southport, or about 25% higher on average.
>  
> Further, I know from experience that my masthead rig becomes seriously 
> overpowered once the wind gets greater than about 12 knots true, when its 
> time to reef the main(I only have 1 reef point) and if it goes above ~ 15 
> knots, I need to roll the headsail a few turns (or change down to a 135% or 
> 90% headsail).
>  
> I am not inclined to go less than the 155% allowed locally (PHRF) but maybe I 
> should--the local North guy suggested ~ 140%. This might better match the 
> local wind and is less expensive since less material is used. OTOH, I don't 
> want to be under canvassed on the light air days. 
>  
> Further, there is the question of sail material weight to consider. 
>  
> I plan for this to be my last headsail purchase and may use it some for local 
> cruising in addition to club racing. BTW, it will be used on a furler either 
> way.
>  
> So what would the listers do!!
>  
> Charlie Nelson
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
> Water Phantom
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