Years ago I suffered from problems with my Harken fuller until I learned about 
the problem with the angle between the halyard exit point from the mast sheave 
and the top of the fuller drum.
The first fix was the Harken halyard restrainer--which increased this angle so 
that the angle between the restrainer and the drum was larger.  Unfortunately, 
the halyard restrainer itself was so large and clunky, given the limited space 
between the forestay/furler drum/swivel and the restrainer when at full hoist, 
that the problem was only partially solved: it worked better than no restrainer 
but not all the time.
The final fix, suggested by an excellent rigger, was to 'pitch' the restrainer 
and mount a permanent bail near the top of the mast forward. This took up much 
less space so that the sail did not need cut to reach full hoist and now the 
angle so large that I never have issues with furling, at least at the top of 
the mast!
FWIW
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1996 C&C 36 XL/kcb 


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From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2021 2:40 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Furler question

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div.yiv0985951551Section1 {}#yiv0985951551 I kind of tried to go to an eye-only 
on the end of the halyardlast summer when I was having trouble with 
roller-furling. I thought that maybethe length between the top roller and mast 
was too long,(not enough angle)and Iflipped the snap shackle sideways and just 
used one shackle to the roller. Thisgot it up a few inches more, but Still had 
problems, and thought maybe theflopping shackle was hitting the forestay. I 
would remove it, but I hate toscrap a perfectly good Tylaska snap shackle. I 
will say, I got a whole new appreciation for the situation upthere after being 
hauled up to look at it in action from a few inches away. Ihighly recommend it. 
      Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie, PA          From: Matthew viaCnC-List 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:35 AM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Matthew
Subject: Stus-List Re: Furler question    
Whileon the topic of furlers, I noticed a couple times last summer that we 
haddifficulty unfurling the sail.  My best guess is that the wire ropethimble 
holding the snap shackle onto the halyard was banging into something uptop.  
I’m replacing the wire-to-rope halyards with all rope for this year,and my line 
supplier said if I’m using a furler (Harken in my case) I don’tneed a snap 
shackle on the halyard.  All I need is an eye splice becausethe furler already 
has a snap shackle for the halyard.  Does anyone havethis arrangement (just an 
eye splice at the end of the halyard)?    Pleaseadvise.  Thanks.    Matt    
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