It is inconceivable that a magnet could be missing, unless you are missing
an entire leg of one of the four paddles, as they are molded right inside
the plastic.

Did you pull it out and check it with a magnet?

 

Bill Coleman

Erie PA

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What is the number o' magnets supposed you be on the paddle-wheel? If it is
more than one then one is missing,

        Cheers, Russ



At 09:57 AM 8/4/2020, you wrote:



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One possible thing is the calibration is way off.

Joe

Coquina
On 8/4/2020 12:21 PM, General Gao wrote:



I wanted to come back to this thread. Did some cleaning on land, had my
daughter rotated the Hall effect sensor, the needle moved, thought it was
all good. We later launched the boat and it turned out that the reading was
off still. It read about half of what it was supposed to be.

What would this indicate?

Thanks,

Bo

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 1:32 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Dielectric grease is made specifically for electrical use. Any auto parts
store has it for about $5.

Joe

Coquina

On 5/23/2020 12:54 PM, General Gao via CnC-List wrote:



that is what I am thinking. Would vaseline work? 

Thank you,

Bo

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:49 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Put some dielectric grease on the connections ;)

 

Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35Â  MK I

www.dellabarba.com

 

 

 

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Reporting back. followed the guide and verified the transmitter had
resistance of 1787ohms, verified there was VAC output when the paddle was
turning fast (couldn't get to the 5knots as boat is on land). Decided to
sand the connectors, and put it back, tested again, and it worked...the
connectors looked without rust, a bit surprised.

 

Thank you everyone for the kind help!

 

Stay safe, stay healthy.

 

Regards,

 

Bo

 

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:42 AM General Gao <general.z....@gmail.com >
wrote:

thank you everyone. I really appreciate the information. I will go check and
report back.

 

Stay safe!

 

Bo

 

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:32 AM Ken Heaton via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Yup, that's correct. If there are only two wires coming from theÂ
paddlewheel transducer, it is likely this 'generator' type as a more modern
hall effect transducer will have at least three wires (I think).

 

Of course a broke wire or bad connection anywhere between the transducer and
the instrument will cause it all to not work.  We would just pull the
transducer and connect it directly to the back of the instrument to see
what happens.

 

>From the Troubleshooting section (last page) of the pdf I linked:

 

TROUBLESHOOTINGÂ 

 

DISPLAY READS ZERO- The problem could be either the transmitter or the
display. Please follow the proceeding steps to determine cause of the
problem-

 

A. Measure the two wires of the transmitter with an ohm meter for resistance
value of approximately 2000 ohms (2K ohms). Do not spin the paddlewheel.

a. If unit is good, then check paddlewheel for any broken fins or missing
magnets.

b. If unit is open (infinite resistance) then unit needs replacing.

B. Measure with an AC voltmeter when the paddlewheel is spinning. You should
get approximately 1.0 VAC at about 5 knots of speed when unloaded (not
hooked up to display).

INTERMITTENT READINGS- Keep the unit wired as normal and add an AC voltmeter
to where the input wires of the transmitter are connected. Motor or sail as
usual-

 

A. If an AC voltage is being produced but no speed indication appears on
display, then the problem is in the display.

B. If readings only occur when voltages are produced, then the paddlewheel
is not always turning. Clean paddlewheel first and be sure it spins freely,
and then try again. If the results are the same then paddlewheel may need
replacing.   

 

 

 

On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 09:18, Josh Muckley via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

So if I understand it correctly, the theory of operation for these generator
style knot meters would simply be a 2 wire system and a voltage developed
between the two?  I would expect that a simple initial test would be for
continuity between the two wires with the wheel stopped.  Then spin the
wheel and check for voltage proportional to the speed of the wheel.

 

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MDÂ 

 

 

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 07:38 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

There are (were) some generator knotmeters. Coquina came with one when 

we bought her. If memory serves, it topped out at 10 or 12 knots and it 

was always fun to peg it :)

Joe

Coquina

On 5/18/2020 5:32 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:

> Have you looked at this web page?  This takes yo to the manuals for SR 

> Mariner Instruments (since 1973): 

> https://srinstruments.com/manuals#mariner_manuals
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=8594dd2f-d8e74e4e-8594f458-ac1f6b44e8
6e-dd5873740a9ca4d3&q=1&e=efdd7465-d92c-4c80-83ec-908c6edcb26a&u=https%3A%2F
%2Fsrinstruments.com%2Fmanuals%23mariner_manuals> 

> 

> The only SR Mariner Knotmeter I ever worked on (on a friend's C&C 35 

> Mk.I 1973) was self powered.  In other words, no external power was 

> needed (except for the backlight for the instrument face for night 

> use), the paddle-wheel seemed to be a generator.

> 

> More info here: https://srinstruments.com/r/manuals/public/MANSELF.pdf
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=02beb11d-5fcd227c-02be986a-ac1f6b44e8
6e-410501274e5fda22&q=1&e=efdd7465-d92c-4c80-83ec-908c6edcb26a&u=https%3A%2F
%2Fsrinstruments.com%2Fr%2Fmanuals%2Fpublic%2FMANSELF.pdf> 

> 

> Ken H.

> 

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