Hi Josh,

When I replaced mine I left the excess length on the forward side to add a tiny 
bit more support between the strut and the engine. Probably don't make a 
difference, but a friend of mine who owned a CS36 Merlin told me it could not 
be bad and maybe help to reduce vibrations. On his boat the shaft is very long 
with a fair length without any support. He always add trouble with vibrations 
and even broke the shaft in the Bahamas. Many variables there I agree...

After 5 years I don't see any premature wear to the bearing.

From an amateur sailor. I don't think it really matters, rear or forward. And I 
don't think the extra length hurts anything either.

You should see a noticeable improvement regarding vibrations with your 
drivetrain refit.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33-2
New-Richmond, Qc


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Le 9 juil. 2020 à 07:43, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

Hi Josh, I was just checking our driveshaft numbers yesterday as I will be 
coming out of the watwe at the end of the month and I want to replace the 
cutlass bearing then.  Our shift measures 1 1/4" as well according to the 
survey, an old worn out folding prop in my garage and a measurement I took 
about 9 months ago.  So. I'm thinking your boat may not be such an anomaly 
after all.  I have no idea what the strut is going to be like.

All things being equal, I think I would either cut off the excess or align the 
forard side flush, just thinking that the blunter forward edge would be more 
likely to build positive water pressure, thus pushing water into and through 
the bearing.

That's just a layman's guess though.

Please keep us updated!

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+
"Astralis"



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From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
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Date: 7/9/20 12:09 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com<mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutless/cutlass/strut bearing replacement

Well it seems that maybe the previous owner has replaced the shaft with a 
larger size.  A few other 37+ owners have stated that their shafts are 1-1/8th 
whereas mine is 1-1/4.  The original shaft would have come with a strut which 
would accommodate a bearing OD of 1-5/8 inch (1-1/8 x 1-5/8 x 4-1/2).  The 
smallest bearing OD for my larger 1-1/4 shaft is 1-3/4 (1-1/4 x 1-3/4 x 5).  It 
appears that the PO must have run into a similar problem with this combination 
of original strut and larger shaft and must have had the bearing turned down to 
1-5/8 OD.

Now for my next question.  After the machinist turned the bearing, he failed to 
cut it to a length of 4-1/2.   The result is a bearing which is 1/2 inch too 
long for the strut.  I can split the difference and leave 1/4 inch sticking out 
on either side of the strut.  Or some other fraction forward and aft.  
Currently I have about 1/8th forward and 3/8th aft.  I'm not sure if this is 
good, bad, or indifferent and I'd like to get everyone's thoughts.  Cut it off? 
 Leave it?  Move it flush on one side or the other?

Thanks,
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 16:03 Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
OK folks,

I thought I was doing things the right way and incorporating all of the years 
of collective wisdom.  Wrong!  I'm doing a drive train rebuild and with the 
shaft out it only made sense to replace the strut bearing as well.  It didn't 
seem to need it but doing it with the shaft out seemed a lot easier than with 
it in and I know for a fact that the bearing is at least 8 years old and 
probably twice that.  I know I have a 1-1/4 shaft and the bearing is pretty 
thin walled so looking online at the availability of bearings it seemed that 
the only real option was a 1-1/4 x 1-1/2 x 5 inch bearing.  That's 1-1/4 ID and 
1-1/2 OD.  Basically 1/8 total wall thickness (about 1/16th bronze and 1/16th 
rubber) Well I took it to the boat before destroying the old bearing and sure 
enough it looks like the right size.  Seems like it will fit just right.  I 
went ahead and destroyed the old bearing getting it out.  Compared the now 
destroyed bearing to the new one and again no indication of any incorrect size. 
 Today I brought the new bearing (fresh from the freezer) to the boat and much 
to my dismay it slipped right into the strut with no resistance and probably 
1/16th of play all the way around.  If I had to guess, I would think that it is 
instead a 1-5/8ths strut not 1-1/2.  Ugh!  So I looked online and sure enough 
the only next closest size is 1-3/4.  That means 1/4 inch wall thickness (1/8th 
inch metal, 1/8th rubber).

This is when I recalled someone else on the list having a similar problem a few 
years ago.  I searched the archives and was unable to find the old post.  I've 
been to buck algonquin and a few other sites and Google searches only to find 
that the bearings jump from 1-1/2 to 1-3/4 with nothing in between.  I'm headed 
back to the boat with a set of calipers but unless it turns out to be a 1-3/4 
and my eyes are simply due for calibration, I'm afraid I'm running out of 
options.  I know that the bearings can be turned down but that seems costly and 
unnecessary.  I'd like a better idea.


All the best,

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
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