FYI – it doesn’t hurt to use 2 vacuum gauges, one before the filter and one 
after. I was experiencing high vacuum and shutdowns and after I installed the 
second gauge, I found high vacuum on BOTH of them. It wasn’t the filter that 
was clogged, it was the pickup tube in the tank. The filter’s contribution to 
the problem is the difference between the gauges ;)
My clog turned out to be rubber pieces from the fuel fill hose, it was slowly 
dissolving and dropping bits of rubber into the tank. Sometimes they would suck 
onto the fuel pickup and sometimes they would drop back off.

Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wade Glew 
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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 9:52 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Diesel Filter

thanks for this Josh
Wade
Oh Boy 33-2

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:16 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Wade,

Look at the picture of a 500 series racor in the link below.  The factory top 
has a t handle which is used to tighten the lid.  The vacuum gauge which Joe 
linked replaces that t-handle.  The t arms are not used to sense pressure - 
just for tightening the lid.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/172954061164

BTW: these 500 series are notorious for being easily over tightened which warps 
the lid and causes leaks.

The 500 series is 60gph which would be close to 60 times the flow capacity 
required for any one of our engines.  Even with a 2 micron filter I would not 
expect much if any vacuum being formed, though it should be noted that the 
vacuum represents the effort required to "lift" the fuel out of the tank AND 
the effort required to suck the fuel through the filter.  Yanmar typically 
rates their engines for up to 10 feet of lift.  Diesel is 34" per psi so 10 
feet = ~3.5 psi.  Even with no filter element installed the vacuum  for 10 feet 
of vertical lift of diesel fuel would amount to 100 inH2O, 3.5psia or 7 inHg.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Sun, May 24, 2020, 23:03 Wade Glew via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Joe
Looking at the guage you've linked to, its obvious the "T" arms go in the fuel 
line between the Racor and engine. Where does the threaded base of the T go?  
What is a normal pressure? What pressure reading makes you decide to change 
filters?  Are the lined just clamped with small hose clamps or what?
Wade
Oh Boy 33-2

On Sun, May 24, 2020, 17:15 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List, 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

A vacuum gauge is one of the best cost/benefit ratio improvements you can do. 
You can save a lot of $$$ in unneeded filter changes and get advanced warning 
when you do need to change one.

Be official:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=racor+gauge&_sacat=0

Cockpit mount with light:

https://moyermarine.com/product/vacuum-gauge-kit-gaug_07-1_532/<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=b7f37aed-ea80e98c-b7f3539a-ac1f6b44e86e-4c178e1e039dd85e&q=1&e=7cb8c88e-efc3-44b3-82bf-4503afac93d7&u=https%3A%2F%2Fmoyermarine.com%2Fproduct%2Fvacuum-gauge-kit-gaug_07-1_532%2F>
 (also can be used for manifold vacuum)

Cheap:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1-2-Vacuum-Gauge-Chrome-Plated-Steel-Case-1-4-NPT-Lower-Mnt-30-inHg-0/183642544745?hash=item2ac1f2da69:g:2gUAAOSwJiBcQOWz

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIQUID-FILLED-VACUUM-GAUGE-30-0-PSI-2-5-FACE-1-4-NPT-LOWER-MOUNT-WOG/192746480989?hash=item2ce095e55d:g:RiQAAOSwqoxcBW9S



Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I


On 5/24/2020 3:39 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote:
Time and again I have read that Yanmar does not recommend a 2/3 micron primary 
filter.  I therefore use a 10 micron, and use Biobar, as well as some Seafoam.  
 I have some old crud in my tank, but where I can see it through the hole for 
the sender, the bits I can see are pretty well stuck to the bottom of the tank 
(and there are not many of them).  That said, the boat had sat at the dock for 
+/- 6 years before I got her, and we have run 150 gallons or so of fuel through 
the boat in the last 4 years.

I change my Racor every year, and I used to change the one on the engine every 
year as well.  This time, I'm going to let the engine mounted one go another 
year.  We still get a fine layer of black "grit" at the bottom of the racor 
over the year, but it does not appear to hinder the running of the engine.

I'd rather swap out a $20 filter once a year than risk the engine shutting down 
as I go through a bridge opening with 3 kts. of current.

To each their own,

Bruce


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