Thanks for all the input and advice - It's incredibly helpful to get multiple approaches and info on the construction. My rudder is very long. When we hauled out last year the tip of the rudder was level with the bottom of the wing keel, so roughly 5-6 ft. I'm still skeptical that the fins/wings are made of mild steel but like anyting it will require a dissection and thorough inspection. If I find any real corrosion (I'm sure I will) I will hire a welder and replace the fins with 316 stainless ones.
I'm still heavily leaning towards the DIY approach (similar to what Graham did) using rigid foam or a poured foam block and carving it down using the original rudder shell as a template, then glassing or hiring a pro to glass the whole thing for me, sealing the shaft, then barrier coat, bottom paint, etc. for much less than the quotes I was given and still be a solid dependable construction if I do everything right. I do watch Sail Life on Youtube - Madz is doing an amazing job so far. I'm not a fan of the clamshell method where building a mold is twice the work and probably twice the cost, but I'm excited to see his results. Thanks again! Dan On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:57 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > In the late 70’s early 80’s some C&C owners here were lengthening their > rudders, there is a fellow here who interned at C&C in the early 70’s who > designed the modified rudders. I did two modifications using the existing > shafts, and one from scratch, but not the fiberglass. The ribs were 11 > Gauge SS in the shape of the rudder, and a 1” X 1/8” strap wrapped around > that, and welded to the shape, making like a T section. I then layed it > flat on some cardboard and poured foam over it, and they just sanded it > down to the ribs using a long sandpapered 2X4. And then someone fiber > glassed them. > > My boat was owned by an older fellow at the time, and he sent it with the > local designers sketch to Bruckmans, and they did the rudder. > > Fast forward 10 years, and I own the boat for a year and haul the boat in > the fall with half the rudders fiberglass missing . I brought it back to > the shop and made a 14 gauge SS rudder, 30 or 40 pounds lighter, and still > bone dry today. > > So, there are many options. > > > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 Erie, PA > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dan > via CnC-List > *Sent:* Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:40 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Dan > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Replacing a CnC 44 Rudder > > > > Thanks everyone, > > I've looked into both Foss Foam and Competition Composites. Both options > are landing well into the $5000 cdn range (including freight) which is way > beyond my budget. Foss Foam doesn't have a C&C44 Rudder mold but can try to > "match" something similar which scares me a little and it's roughliey $1200 > US to get it to Canada. Competition has a very expensive high-tech process > using CAD software and a milling machine which I'm sure is standard for any > Americas Cup contender but drives the price as expected. > > > > Has anyone tried to re-build their own rudder? - I've been told carving > 15lb density rigid foam and encapuslating is the way to go - like this: > > http://boatprojects.blogspot.com/2011/07/rudder-rebuild.html > > > > Dan > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 9:00 AM Rod Stright via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > I would suggest Competition Composites in Ontario excellent > workmanship,Canadian $$$$ > > Rod > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Dan via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > > Has any C&C44 owners on the list replaced their rudder, and if so, where > did you have the work done? - The price is dramatically reduced if they > have an existing mold to work with. > > > > Dan Cormier > > Breakaweigh > > C&C44 > > Halifax, NS > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > >
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