FYI. All those power take-offs incrementally reduce the usable HP of the engine, presumable sized with one take off, not four.
I chose a 80 amp alternator upgrade in lieu of a 110 amp as I was told by Balmar that it might be more relative HP (10%) than you want to lose. Many of our power-plants were not sized on the high side to begin with. And my only experience with a Pathfinder diesel was not good. Any boat that gives you a vibe like that...run. Imagine the stuff/poor workmanship you cant see? David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401) 419-4650 ________________________________ From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Shawn Wright via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:54 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Shawn Wright Subject: Re: Stus-List 1974 36 mk2 questions Just a bit more info on the C&C 35-2 'Callisto' that I viewed last week and decided to pass on. My wife had the same feeling, but hers was based mainly on the interior (which I didn't think was that bad), aside from the 70s molded headliner (complete with many holes from wiring mods and the dodger, etc). That weekend I also was invited aboard another 35-2, so I had a feel for the interior already. I don't mind it, although I think I am changing my opinion of the dinette vs. drop-down table; having been on some boats with the drop-down, I prefer it as it can be out of the way quicker when not needed. Anyway, a few other unique things this boat had installed by the previous owner: - water maker driven off engine pulley (he owns a watermaker company) and installed in box to starboard of engine at sole level - engine driven bilge pump in addition to two electric and manual. Not sure how it is engaged/disengaged - dual 65A alternators - all those extra belts are a bit scary - 4 pulleys off the crank - solar panels over cockpit aft on very heavy aluminum I-beams, room for 4 panels and 6x 6V batteries - solent rig with dual furlers, apparently properly braced below deck, although I didn't verify - huge anchor and roller, along with stainless bow eye in hull - he didn't want anchor to slip I guess. Possibly it was on a mooring buoy so the bow eye would make sense. Although some things looked to be fairly well installed, others did not: - poorly finished plywood battery box in port lazarette, along with refrig unit covered in rust (probably not a marine grade unit) - possibly the most annoying were all the holes in the molded headliner, with exposed wiring junctions, etc. I assume some of the wiring is captive so he decided to start cutting small holes. That and the holes for the dodger mounting made it look like swiss cheese. Is the wiring that difficult to upgrade up there? I'd probably try to cover the headliner with panels of white and teak to hide all this, since I'm not a fan of molded liners. The main problem with this boat is that even with all these 'upgrades' in the past 2-3 years, everything from a safety standpoint (at a minimum) becomes suspect to me based on the evidence of questionable workmanship quality. The fact that the VW diesel injection pump was off being repaired was another red flag. I know these engines very well, having rebuilt several, and the injection pumps are bullet proof. Only two things will cause this type of failure: bad fuel, and someone messing with them. My van has an '86 engine with the original pump and >600k kms. It developed a leak this year, but has otherwise been trouble free. It is a shame, because it seems like a solid boat, and the current owner is a very nice guy, but I have too many projects already. I just want a boat I can sail, and feel safe and confident in. Thanks On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 2:56 PM Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com<mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello all, Had a look at the 35 mk2 in Victoria, and while it will be a great boat for someone, we've decided it's just not for us. There is a lot of value in recent upgrades, but the quality of workmanship is not quite what I'd like to see, and there is a bit too much complexity in the engine compartment, with dual alternators, watermaker, etc. Having now been on two 35s, I can say that it is still a contender on our list though. The owner is motivated to sell, so if you're interested, I can pass along his contact info. Thanks! On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:30 AM Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com<mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for all the info. Going to look at the boat today, so I will report back. I was invited on board another '74 35 mk2 yesterday, after viewing a Catalina (am I allowed to say that here...?) 30 and a CS 27. Needless to say, I preferred the C&C, and it just made me more curious about Callisto. If the work done appears to be well executed and not a hack job. Will report back... On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 9:40 AM Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Agree on condition and will add that it’s well Worth paying a bit more for a boat with recent upgrades, esp if they are the upgrades you’d make anyway. (The Bimini you’d buy anyway is effectively free in a used boat). 35-2 was on my shortlist when I bought my 33-2. Vs Toronto area Price seems a bit high (as you’d expect from any seller) but cash is king.... he’s seeking reasonable offers. Looks like the boat has already been equipped for the uses you have planned, and that hard dodger may be perfect for what you want, especially if you can steer from there, sitting in the companionway. (Under power Via autopilot) Curious about the twin furler mod and how the stays are supported. Good luck! Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Steve Thomas > <sthom...@bellnet.ca<mailto:sthom...@bellnet.ca>> wrote: > > > Condition is everything, and that is not a high price for a reasonably > well-equipped boat in good condition, especially in BC where prices are > generally higher, most likely due to the absurd cost of housing. > > Steve Thomas > C&C 27MKIII > C&C 36 > > ---- Shawn Wright via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > Hello, > > I am considering a '74 36' mk2, with several modifications, and I am > curious about how they might affect the boat in terms of suitability for > coastal cruising (BC coast) and possibly a trip around Vancouver Island. > Perhaps some here are familiar with the boat 'Callisto' which has: > > Twin furlers rigged with 150 genoa and 90 jib. > VW diesel with dual alternators, reported 4000 hrs. > Watermaker > Aluminum framed dodger (not the most attractive, but appears well built). > > The asking price is $32k CAD, which seems high. > https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/victoria-bc/c-c-35-mk-ii/1372900178 > > Interested in thoughts on this boat, and the 35-2 in general. > > Thanks > > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com<mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com> > > > _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. 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