Joe

I got dizzy just reading your post.  And you confirmed my worst fear.  I could 
hire a professional and watch him spend hours searching for the needle in the 
hay stack.

Mike
C&C 37 K/CB Shoal draft
Persuasion
Stormont Yacht Club

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: August 13, 2018 10:04 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Galvanic corrosion

You can have grounds places you don’t expect. The VHF radio may ground negative 
to the chassis that connects to the coax shield that connects to the body of 
the antenna loading coil that connects to the mount that connects to the mast.
Almost any SSB has the coax shield connected to negative that may have DC 
connectivity through the tuner.
Submersible centrifugal bilge pumps (Rule etc.) can have the metal pump shaft 
connected to DC negative, or even worse DC positive if you wire it backwards 
and it will pump just fine wired backwards.
Battery chargers can be a link between DC ground and the AC green wire bus 
outside of the intended connection.
Engines more or less carry DC ground to underwater metal. If the engine ground 
connection is bad, starting the engine will raise the underwater metal above DC 
ground voltage and so will battery charging.
Anything AC like an air conditioner is effectively connected to DC ground.
Etc etc
Back in the day I could spend hours and hours at $60/hr with meters and cables 
tracking this stuff down.


Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion37 
via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 1:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Persuasion37 <persuasio...@gmail.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Galvanic corrosion

Thanks Joe

I think I’m suffering from stray current corrosion.  I’m on a ball at the yacht 
club and as said earlier, the only time I’m connected to AC is when Persuasion 
is on the hard.  I’ve started eliminating different devices looking for the 
leak.  A very slow process.

Mike
PERSUASION
C&C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

On Aug 10, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I am a bit late to this, but FYI:
Galvanic corrosion is caused by two different types of metal in water that are 
electrically connected. The “less noble” metal is the one that corrodes, which 
is why we use zincs (or magnesium or aluminum).
There has to be a path between the metals for this to happen. This can get much 
much worse when on shorepower because all the boats in the marina end up wired 
together via the green ground wire connection. If no one buys new zincs but 
you, guess who supplies the entire marina with anode material? YOU DO! Galvanic 
isolators are 100% needed for any boat on shore power for this reason.
 
The other form of corrosion is stray current corrosion. This does not need 
different metals to work, just electricity flowing through the water. The 
current moves metal from one place to the other, this is how electroplating 
works. This can be very complicated to track down and can do a vast amount of 
damage very quickly. There are a lot of different ways this can happen, but 
imagine a boat with the keel connected to the ground bus, a negative ground 
engine, and a SSB ground plate with DC connection through to the radio. We now 
have 3 different underwater metals connected to the negative side of the DC 
system. If the onboard ground bus and wiring are not perfect, some current will 
flow through the water too.
 
Joe
Coquina
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