We are Farmer's Insurance. We covered that! :) Dennis C.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The Orcas in Vancouver need to work on their seamanship too: https://www. > washingtonpost.com/video/national/health-science/killer-whale-crashes-two- > boats-together-in-vancouver-island/2018/07/31/012e8caa- > 94ac-11e8-818b-e9b7348cd87d_video.html?utm_term=.79286bf85b03 > > Cheers, > Randy > > > On Aug 1, 2018, at 9:21 AM, John Conklin via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > All this sounds great but… I have no cleats on my slip ☹ I am newbie > but will be going out alone often. I dock bow in, port side to short Finger > pier which when I am all the way in boarding Gate just barley passes > midship piling! Same reason as stated earlier (Privacy/View) for the bow in > but may try to back in as I don’t generally hang around to enjoy view. > Wind 90% of SW over Port side, Luckily I have 2 pilings rear (out in open > water) and Midships which I have padded 😊 that I can Bounce off before > taking out the IP38 next door. So I just noticed last weekend my neighbor > rigged a very cool Bow Catch system for when he pulls bow in like me . > It’s a V formed looks like 3/8 or 1/2 “ at most so has some give, from > the 2 Midship pilings and held up mid slip from main dock which when he > pulls in sends him right into the pocket. Hooks up spring and he’s done, > leave in fwd gear then off to adjust everything else Very slick ! > Has anyone else seen or used this set up ? > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of robert via > CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:14:21 AM > *To:* Dennis C. via CnC-List > *Cc:* robert > *Subject:* Stus-List Docking seamanship > > Dennis: > I spent 20 years on a mooring so I could come and go single handed > without any stress associated with docking and/or leaving a slip. Last > year, a slip at my club became available similar to yours in > Pensacola....bow in, starboard side finger pier with a Nonsuch 36 as my > port neighbor...at most, 3' separating the boats when both docked. > However, my finger is 35' and AZURA is 32' so I have a bit of leeway when > docking. With some hesitation, I decided to give it a try. > > At first, I found docking harder than leaving especially single handed. > Now I find leaving with a starboard wind more challenging. > > For docking, I rigged a line with a 3/8" snubber which I carry in a locker > and take out just before docking and place the inboard loop over the > starboard main winch and tuck under the lifeline(s) and bring outside and > hang the end loop on the aft gate stantion....open the gate, of course, to > hang the out end loop. > > I approach the finger pier at approx. 1 to 1.5 knots.....I find it best > when I have headway.....I have steerage.....hardly ever use reverse unless > the approach to too fast....when the starboard gate reaches the pier I step > off the boat.....take the end loop and drop it over the first or outermost > cleat.....when the line comes tight and cushioned by the snubber, the boat > glides to a stop without the bow touching the main pier. > > Now, I am off the boat which is in neutral.....two spring lines stay on > the dock and attach to my SS toe rail cleat with carabiners....usually the > last lines to get attached. > > I take both my bow line and stern line with me.....stern line never gets > adjusted....when sailing it is just folded on the deck between the toe rail > and bimini frame...it is set for the correct length and I simply drop the > outer loop over the outermost cleat, the same one with the snubber which I > will remove and take aboard and store. > > I also take my bow line with me.....when sailing, it stretches back from > the bow outside the stantions/toe rail and I tie it to the mid-ship SS toe > rail cleat. The bow line becomes very useful this way as when docking, as > I do, as soon as I drop the snubber line I walk forward and grab the bow > line......I now have control of the boat......I can reach down and attach a > spring line.....untie my bow line and tie the inner most cleat......the > excess bow line I just bring back to the first stantion when docked. > > When leaving the dock, the bow line is the last to get released and I > bring it back to the mid ship SS toe rail cleat and tie it off there. I > can control the boat with it. > > I also found prop walk a nuisance, especially leaving the pier as the boat > has no momentum to gain steerage. To address that, I have a short piece > of rope, doubled up with a knot in the end looped in the toe rail just > forward of the starboard gate........I pull on it (parallel to the pier) to > get the boat moving backwards.....jump aboard and hit reverse....that > little bit of momentum going backwards allows the rudder to get some water > flowing over it and you have the start of steerage. > > Over the past 2 seasons, there have been a few days when the wind was just > too much for me to attempt leaving single handed.....if there was a person > on the dock helping, no problem. > > A club mate has a big centre cockpit boat that he finds difficult leaving > the dock when the wind is blowing him off the pier....he usually has his > wife with him but in no way could she/he man-handle this vessel......so > here is how they do it.... he rigged a line on the pier from the two outter > most cleats.....put a snatch block on the pier line and attached another > line to the snatch block.......when leaving the pier, his wife holds the > line attached to the snatch block which rolls along the pier line holding > the boat in place......when cleared, she is close to the bow and > drops/throws the line to the pier. He uses a system similar to mine when > docking. > > Trusting this is helpful. > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32- 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > On 2018-07-31 12:58 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > > OK, after 20 years of ownership, I'm pretty good at driving Touche'. > Touche's "home" slip in Louisiana is in a fairly protected bayou, has both > outboard and midships pilings on either side and a port side finger pier. > I can competently back Touche' in using propwalk, etc. without touching any > pilings. Whoopee. > > However, the "temporary" slip I use in Pensacola is a whole different > scenario. First, it has a starboard side finger pier which extends to just > short of full boat length. Second, it is a double slip with NO pilings > between Touche' and my neighbor, an IP 37. Third, the prevailing wind is > from the starboard side. > > In Pensacola, I dock Touche' bow in for privacy and scenic view issues. > Docking > stern in isn't a desirable option because the bow will fall off towards my > neighbor while docking and looking at a scenic bayou is preferable to > looking at a working boatyard. > > So, docking bow in with a wind from starboard and prop walk which pulls > the boat to port is a challenge. The wind pushes the boat dramatically to > port when docking. The prop walk exacerbates the movement to port. The > wind and prop walk both working against the boat sucks. > > I've tried several techniques with limited to moderate success. The best > the Admiral and I have come up with is to approach at a slight upwind angle > to the finger pier, have a spring/warp line attached a bit forward of > midships, have crew leap off the boat and secure the spring to the > outermost cleat on the finger pier to stop forward motion. Once the line > is secure, we warp the stern in with forward propulsion and left rudder and > secure a stern line. The stern still tries to swing to port midway through > this process but we manage it. > > Now for my main issue. Docking single handed. I can't see myself > approaching the pier, putting the boat in reverse, scrambling out of the > steering station past the Bimini bows, securing the spring line, jumping > back on the boat, warping the stern in and then securing the stern line by > myself. > > Any secret tricks I haven't explored? > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. 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