This is one area ya don't wanna mess with.  Go Edson.   I am sure Chuck wI'll 
elaborate further...



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From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 8/27/17 9:21 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bruce Whitmore <bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak

This brings up a good point - As for the cables, where would folks here buy 
them?  Directly from Edson (expensive) or is there a less expensive, but still 
good quality alternative (say from McMaster Carr, Grainger, etc.)?

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


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From: svpegasus38 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: svpegasus38 <svpegasu...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak

Had a similar thing happen sailing to Hawaii few years ago on a 1973 Ericson 
35. 500 miles from Hilo I had a steering cable break. Dug out the emergency 
tiller, and continued to sail. No anchoring here, lol. Figured out it was 
almost impossible to steer a course while looking aft at the compass, chart 
plotter was to slow to steer by. We hove to, changed the cable and sailed off 
into the sun set, well it did take all day to get to the sun set. Next morning 
at 5am the other cable broke. This time the capt was at the helm and the seas 
were in the neighborhood of 20ft instead of 4 like the day before. Hove to 
again changed the second cable. The owner had changed out the cable 3 years 
before using hardware store wire rope.
I heard from a friend, who sailed back to Victoria, that the cables broke again.
My thought was that he had too stuff of cable for the sheave  diameter.



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Doug Mountjoy
POYC
Pegasus (for sale)
Lf38
Rebecca Leah LF39

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From: ahycrace via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 8/25/17 20:08 (GMT-08:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: ahycrace <ahycr...@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak

Sailing down Narragansett bay a few years ago broad reach 7kts we hear a loud 
BANG and no steering. Get the sails down and anchor. We look under the cockpit 
and see that the idler plate is so rusted that one of the pullys has pulled 
right off. Get the emergency tiller out and attach it motor home....a very bad 
day! Check that plate and all of the attached pullys. Edson has all the 
replacements if needed. I have pics of the bad plate before i took it off. I 
can post them when we get home we are in Newport watching the J class boats 
race.

Gary. "Liberty"  38' Mk ll



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-------- Original message --------
From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 8/24/17 10:08 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak

Richard,
Make sure to use a non-petroleum based lubricant for the bearings that support 
the wheel shaft (such as Superlube or other Teflon based grease).  Don’t squirt 
WD-40 or any light weight spray  lubricant into the grease holes as it will 
tend to flush any lube out of the nylon caged bearings.  You can also check to 
see if the bearings are worn if you can move the wheel shaft up and down, or 
side to side.  There should be no play in the shaft at all..

Edson does sell a “pedestal rebuild kit” that includes bearings, circlips and 
all the other thrust washers and replacement components for the wheel shaft.  
If you go down that road, I’d also take the time to replace the brake shoes if 
everything else is apart.

The other possibility for your squeaky noise is the sheave pins (axles) for the 
bronze idler wheels.  They ride on plain bushings and in the “old days” the 
axles were also bronze, which will wear out eventually and allow the sheaves to 
go flying into the bilge under tension at the worst possible time.  If those 
have never been checked, replaced with stainless pins, or lubricated as 
described in Edson’s steering maintenance instructions, I would certainly do 
so.  Once the sheave pins wear, the sheaves go out of alignment and the 
squeaking you hear may be the axles getting ready to let go.

Finally, the Edson Idler plate at the base of the pedestal is generally made of 
mild steel below the deck.  Not terribly subjected to the elements, but they 
can and will eventually start to rust.  Once that happens, sheaves, cable 
alignments and other critical steering components can be affected, so check for 
a rusty idler plate as well as wobbly sheave uprights.

Whatever you do, don’t wait for it to fail to fix it..  Boats without steering 
are not safe by any stretch of the imagination.  The folks at Edson are very 
good at walking you through what you need and they have data sheets on most 
every C&C Steering system they sold for our boats.
Cheers,
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak

Is it an Edson pedestal?  If so, there are two places to squeeze in grease 
under the compass.  If you look on YouTube there are Edson videos on replacing 
the bearings and they show the grease points.

I just did the bearing replacement on my current boat.

Joel

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Richard Walter via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Greetings,

The wheel on our 1978 36-footer has always squeaked to varying degrees. Anyone 
found a solution to squeaky wheels? When it comes to getting grease, I cannot 
locate a grease fitting (Zerc). Anyone added one?

Thank you,
Richard
s/v INDIGO

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