Sailing down Narragansett bay a few years ago broad reach 7kts we hear a loud 
BANG and no steering. Get the sails down and anchor. We look under the cockpit 
and see that the idler plate is so rusted that one of the pullys has pulled 
right off. Get the emergency tiller out and attach it motor home....a very bad 
day! Check that plate and all of the attached pullys. Edson has all the 
replacements if needed. I have pics of the bad plate before i took it off. I 
can post them when we get home we are in Newport watching the J class boats 
race.  
Gary. "Liberty"  38' Mk ll


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-------- Original message --------From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 8/24/17  10:08 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> Subject: 
Re: Stus-List wheel squeak 
Richard,Make sure to use a non-petroleum based lubricant for the bearings that 
support the wheel shaft (such as Superlube or other Teflon based grease).  
Don’t squirt WD-40 or any light weight spray  lubricant into the grease holes 
as it will tend to flush any lube out of the nylon caged bearings.  You can 
also check to see if the bearings are worn if you can move the wheel shaft up 
and down, or side to side.  There should be no play in the shaft at all.. Edson 
does sell a “pedestal rebuild kit” that includes bearings, circlips and all the 
other thrust washers and replacement components for the wheel shaft.  If you go 
down that road, I’d also take the time to replace the brake shoes if everything 
else is apart. The other possibility for your squeaky noise is the sheave pins 
(axles) for the bronze idler wheels.  They ride on plain bushings and in the 
“old days” the axles were also bronze, which will wear out eventually and allow 
the sheaves to go flying into the bilge under tension at the worst possible 
time.  If those have never been checked, replaced with stainless pins, or 
lubricated as described in Edson’s steering maintenance instructions, I would 
certainly do so.  Once the sheave pins wear, the sheaves go out of alignment 
and the squeaking you hear may be the axles getting ready to let go.   Finally, 
the Edson Idler plate at the base of the pedestal is generally made of mild 
steel below the deck.  Not terribly subjected to the elements, but they can and 
will eventually start to rust.  Once that happens, sheaves, cable alignments 
and other critical steering components can be affected, so check for a rusty 
idler plate as well as wobbly sheave uprights. Whatever you do, don’t wait for 
it to fail to fix it..  Boats without steering are not safe by any stretch of 
the imagination.  The folks at Edson are very good at walking you through what 
you need and they have data sheets on most every C&C Steering system they sold 
for our boats.Cheers,Chuck GilchrestS/V Half Magic1983 35 LandfallPadanaram, MA 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak Is it an Edson pedestal?  If so, there are 
two places to squeeze in grease under the compass.  If you look on YouTube 
there are Edson videos on replacing the bearings and they show the grease 
points.   I just did the bearing replacement on my current boat. Joel On Thu, 
Aug 24, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Richard Walter via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:Greetings,  The wheel on our 1978 36-footer has always squeaked to 
varying degrees. Anyone found a solution to squeaky wheels? When it comes to 
getting grease, I cannot locate a grease fitting (Zerc). Anyone added one?  
Thank you,Richard s/v INDIGO 
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