should have googled once more before I sent the last email. Here is the crossover fitting
https://www.walmart.com/ip/30LX29-Structural-Pipe-Fitting-Pipe-Size-2in/44953362 On 31 December 2016 at 07:47, Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jeez I hate to buy marine anything when I know there's often a "real" > application.... > > Couldn't resist, took half a coffee, but here is the industrial equivalent > stuff. Search on modular pipe fittings, or structural pipe fittings, or > slip on pipe fittings. > > examples: > > http://www.keesafety.ca/products/kee_klamp#catalogue > <http://goog_687835782> > > <http://goog_687835782> > https://www.easyfit.com/catalog/category/add-on_fittings > > > The fitting that secures the longitudinal stiffening rail is called a > crossover. Two examples, the second very similar to mine: > > https://www.acklandsgrainger.com/en/product/CLAMP-ON- > CROSSOVER-PIPE-SIZE-1-1-2/_/R-GGM4NXV8 > <http://goog_687835785> > > <http://goog_687835785> > http://www.hollaender.com/files/1/Tech_Data/Part_Drawings/12_1114.pdf > > > In my quick browse I did not see one that will work as well as the one > that came with my boat, though the hollaender unit is close. > > Two reasons: > -my example is like the hollaender "short barrel cross" , a casting which > has two sections of tube (conceptually) at 90 deg to eachother. the rib > tube passes through one,the longitudinal through the other at 90 Deg. > See the grainger link below for a u-clamp version of the same thing, which > would require 3 hands to assemble. > -The fitting is secured with a single large set screw, uses a 1/4" allen > key. Easier and quicker than a wrench. > This allows the fitting to remain set-screwed to the rib, and the heights > and alignment can be tweaked while assembling. the longitudinal goes in > last. > > Will try to photograph and see if I can see any identification on the > casting. > > Dave > > > > > On 31 December 2016 at 00:04, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: frame parts and pieces (rshibe) >> 2. Re: frame parts and pieces (David Knecht) >> 3. Re: C&C 37+ Backstay Inspection/Improvements (Josh Muckley) >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: rshibe <rsh...@optonline.net> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: >> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:18:16 -0500 >> Subject: Re: Stus-List frame parts and pieces >> Use electrical conduit to support the cover. Connect the framework with >> "Kover Klamps". Google; Kover Klamps where you will find pictures that >> will show more than I can tell you. Having used them I will suggest using a >> power screw driver, it will make the job faster and less wear and tear on >> hand and wrist. >> Good luck, >> Ray Shibe >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com >> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Dave S via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 10:56 AM >> *To:* C&c Stus List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Cc:* Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Quinte cover >> >> >> >> I had a cover made by Dennis at Quinte but my frame came with the boat. >> It uses aluminum tubing. In addition to the spine and ribs, I have >> vertical posts (5?) supporting the spine. Also, there are longitudinal >> pipes running parallel to and around a foot above the sheer, clamped to >> each leg though an appropriate cast fitting. this keeps the ribs from >> twisting. Additionally, I bungee cord over that longitudinal to the >> toe-rail. Seems to work. >> >> >> >> just posted pics here: >> >> >> >> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2016/12/winter-cover-frame-photos.html >> >> >> >> have a Quinte canvas winter cover with a rigid aluminum frame made out >> of 3/4 aluminum conduit. We have over 3 feet of snowfall so far and the >> frame collapses with heavy or wet snow. Does anyone have experience keeping >> their quinte frame upright? Thinking about zip ties to the lifelines. >> >> Len >> C&C 37+ >> Midland On. >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> >> To: CnC CnC discussion list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: >> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:18:41 -0500 >> Subject: Re: Stus-List frame parts and pieces >> I am late to this discussion and have not read everything, but wanted to >> report my experience. I built a frame for my C&C 34 many years ago. It >> was built with frame maker clamps and conduit and was strong and worked >> well. I sold it with the boat mostly as I got tired of the poly tarp tying >> problems and wanted a custom fitted cover. But the frame itself worked >> great and there are instructions on the site for assembling a frame. Dave >> >> http://www.framemakerclamps.com >> >> On Dec 30, 2016, at 10:40 PM, rshibe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> Look for over clamps >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Dec 30, 2016, at 15:57, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Dave – >> Do you have a source for the cast fitting connecting the longitudinal >> pipes to the leg? Or each leg to the spine? >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com >> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Dave S via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 10:56 AM >> *To:* C&c Stus List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Cc:* Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Quinte cover >> >> I had a cover made by Dennis at Quinte but my frame came with the boat. >> It uses aluminum tubing. In addition to the spine and ribs, I have >> vertical posts (5?) supporting the spine. Also, there are longitudinal >> pipes running parallel to and around a foot above the sheer, clamped to >> each leg though an appropriate cast fitting. this keeps the ribs from >> twisting. Additionally, I bungee cord over that longitudinal to the >> toe-rail. Seems to work. >> >> just posted pics here: >> >> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2016/12/winter-cover-frame-photos.html >> >> >> Better go check.... >> >> Dave >> windstar 33-2 >> >> >> >> >> Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> >> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: >> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:54:54 +0000 >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Quinte cover >> Hi Len >> >> I believe this is a Top Shop cover. I have the same >> >> There are two issues with ours when it comes to wet snow. >> 1. The snow sticks to the canvas >> 2. The ribs twist and allow the frame to collapse. >> >> I have tried a couple of different tricks over the years. >> >> To support the spine in the past I have used 2x4 supports in cockpit and >> on deck to help take the extra weight of the snow >> >> For the twisting ribs where the feet of the legs seem to move to the side >> a new solution was suggested to me. It can be done with pvc conduit or >> with 1x3 strapping. Run the new conduit or strapping under the ribs >> parallel to the length of the boat. With the PVC conduit you can use >> ubolts to attach to the ribs along the way and with both the pvc and the >> wood strapping you can also simply use electrical tape ( a lot of it). >> Wrap the tape around the ribs where the strapping / conduit runs beneath it >> and run the strapping from the pushpit to the pulpit. This will give >> resistance against the ribs from twisting. I just did this 2 weeks ago and >> they are still straight. Have not had any great amount of snow since then >> though (just a lot of rain while I was retying the cover). >> >> Regardless of all this if you have a buildup of snow on the cover you >> should remove the snow from time to time. >> >> Mike >> Persistence >> 1987 Frers 33 #16 >> Halifax, NS >> http://users.eastlink.ca/~mhoyt >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of >> Mitchell's via CnC-List >> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 11:41 AM >> To: CNC List >> Cc: Mitchell's >> Subject: Stus-List Quinte cover >> >> I have a Quinte canvas winter cover with a rigid aluminum frame made out >> of 3/4 aluminum conduit. We have over 3 feet of snowfall so far and the >> frame collapses with heavy or wet snow. Does anyone have experience keeping >> their quinte frame upright? Thinking about zip ties to the lifelines. >> Len >> C&C 37+ >> Midland On. >> >> Sent from my mobile device. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> >> Aries >> 1990 C&C 34+ >> New London, CT >> >> >> >
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