Bob, when I got my new Doyle main. Jim Kitchen suggestrd that I install a 
padeye and cleat on either side of the mast so the line would pull forward and 
down. This for the tack. For the clew I took another line tied around boom 
(loose footed) thru the reef point and back to a cheek block on boom then 
forward to a cleat. This works quite well. 
    Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.    




------ Original message------From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List Date: Mon, Dec 21, 
2015 05:05To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Robert Boyer;Patrick Davin;Subject:Re: 
Stus-List How to attach a rigid boom vang on LF38
I don't have a rigid vang but I also don't have a padeye mounted on deck on the 
centerline.  I use the holes in the base of the mount to mount all sheaves 
leading aft.  I am in the midst of a project where I am increasing lines led 
aft and changing the mainsail reefing system (haven't decided how yet but 
getting rid of the "cow horns" near mast).
Bob

Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer
On Dec 20, 2015, at 11:50 PM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I'm thinking of getting a Garhauer rigid vang. Only problem - the dang 
mainsheet block lead is in the way. It's mounted on deck in the standard 
location a few inches behind the mast collar, then the main sheet runs 
vertically up to a boom block. If I mount the boom vang to port of the main 
sheet, it'll bind / rub on a starboard broad reach (I think). Or similarly for 
the other side. 

How have other LF38 owners attached a rigid vang? I'm sure there are more than 
just one who have made the upgrade. 

Wally has some good writeups on his running rigging and moving his main sheet 
padeye. But, it's not clear to me exactly how he ran the vang, and it seems 
like he was unhappy with how the main sheet padeye move worked out (it ended up 
being in the way). And I'm not sure if he ever installed the rigid vang he was 
thinking of upgrading to. 

http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/runrig/mapadeye/mpad.htm

http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/runrig/pad2/pad2.htm

I know from the archives that Nick of "Parbleu!" installed a Garhauer vang, but 
he didn't mention anything of changing the leads. 
http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2011-January/036831.html

Maybe it doesn't matter because although the mainsheet will get bent a bit by 
the vang, the smooth metal won't be enough to chafe it or make trimming 
difficult? Or does everyone move their main sheet padeye?

Here's a pic of the current layout:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxfHpwssU_6NY0ZoeVBpV244UDQ/view?usp=sharing

Main sheet is the red one, and the turning block immediately to stbd of it 
(white line with blue/black tracers) is the current non-rigid vang attached to 
the mast collar. That one binds too, but it's not too bad because the 
block+shackle gets it out far enough that usually just the blocks are hitting.

-Patrick
1984 C&C Landfall 38
Seattle, WA
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