Patrick — I scratched my head on that one for a little while, too; but I 
finally realized that the mainsheet does NOT need to follow the boom all the 
way to the mast.  I have two fiddle blocks attached to the bottom of the boom 
to spread the mainsheet load from the fiddle block on the traveler.  From the 
forward one of those blocks, the line then angles down to the mast collar, 
where it turns on a block to head back to the cockpit.  So the mainsheet 
basically parallels (and is beneath) the Garhauer rigid vang, which is mounted 
to the boom ahead of that fiddle block.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Dec 20, 2015, at 10:50 PM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking of getting a Garhauer rigid vang. Only problem - the dang 
> mainsheet block lead is in the way. It's mounted on deck in the standard 
> location a few inches behind the mast collar, then the main sheet runs 
> vertically up to a boom block. If I mount the boom vang to port of the main 
> sheet, it'll bind / rub on a starboard broad reach (I think). Or similarly 
> for the other side. 
> 
> How have other LF38 owners attached a rigid vang? I'm sure there are more 
> than just one who have made the upgrade. 
> 
> Wally has some good writeups on his running rigging and moving his main sheet 
> padeye. But, it's not clear to me exactly how he ran the vang, and it seems 
> like he was unhappy with how the main sheet padeye move worked out (it ended 
> up being in the way). And I'm not sure if he ever installed the rigid vang he 
> was thinking of upgrading to. 
> 
> http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/runrig/mapadeye/mpad.htm 
> <http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/runrig/mapadeye/mpad.htm>
> 
> http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/runrig/pad2/pad2.htm 
> <http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/runrig/pad2/pad2.htm>
> 
> I know from the archives that Nick of "Parbleu!" installed a Garhauer vang, 
> but he didn't mention anything of changing the leads. 
> http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2011-January/036831.html 
> <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2011-January/036831.html>
> 
> Maybe it doesn't matter because although the mainsheet will get bent a bit by 
> the vang, the smooth metal won't be enough to chafe it or make trimming 
> difficult? Or does everyone move their main sheet padeye?
> 
> Here's a pic of the current layout:
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxfHpwssU_6NY0ZoeVBpV244UDQ/view?usp=sharing 
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxfHpwssU_6NY0ZoeVBpV244UDQ/view?usp=sharing>
> 
> Main sheet is the red one, and the turning block immediately to stbd of it 
> (white line with blue/black tracers) is the current non-rigid vang attached 
> to the mast collar. That one binds too, but it's not too bad because the 
> block+shackle gets it out far enough that usually just the blocks are hitting.
> 
> -Patrick
> 1984 C&C Landfall 38
> Seattle, WA

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