Rich,

 

Less rake = less weather helm.  If you go far enough, you end up with lee
helm, which can be dangerous.  I doubt you have enough adjustment to get
that far though.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

"Midnight Mistress"

C&C 35 Mk-III

Hampton VA

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles
Rich via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 1:36 PM
To: Josh Muckley; cnc-list Cnc-List
Subject: Re: Stus-List LF38 Mast Placement in the Step

 

Hi All. I've been having an offline conversation with Josh, see below.

 

Perhaps someone else might like to answer Josh's questions as I can't.

 

Rich Knowles

Nanaimo, BC
INDIGO LF38
Almost sold in Halifax, NS.





 

On May 2, 2015, at 17:41, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Doesn't the luff moves forward when you move the foot forward?  The original
poster was asking about placement of wood blocks.  He had all 4 blocks
forward of the mast and the mask back all the way aft.  I assumed that in
moving the blocks to move the mast forward that this would move the foot
forward as well.  No mention of changing headstay length so I assumed it to
be the fixed point in all of this.  Based on these assumptions the trailing
edge of the mast and the luff edge of the sail would also move forward but
the mast as a whole would have more rake.  Right?

Josh

On May 2, 2015 6:53 PM, "Rich Knowles" <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote:

I'm confused. Since the luff is attached to the trailing edge of the mast,
if the mast rake increases the luff must move along with it. Perhaps someone
else can make more sense if this than I can for you. I'm at work but will
post our conversation to the masses when I get home. 

RK


On May 2, 2015, at 15:16, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:

What you said was that moving the mast aft moves the center of effort aft.
Since the original question was about placement of the mast foot being all
the way aft and the consequences of moving it forward I assumed you were
referring to the foot.  I had originally stated that moving the foot forward
would increase rake and then mis-stated that increased rake would reduce
weather helm.  I was quickly corrected and I conceeded that more rake equals
more weather helm.

So what is the combined effect of moving the luff edge forward but
increasing rake?  The two actions have opposite effects correct?

Josh

On May 2, 2015 2:28 AM, "Rich Knowles" <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote:

Moving the mast aft moves the centre of sail effort aft and increases
weather helm. Simple geometry.

 

Rich Knowles

Nanaimo, BC
INDIGO LF38
Almost sold in Halifax, NS.





 

On Apr 30, 2015, at 11:15, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

 

Moving the base forward should give more aft rake and reduce weather-helm.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Apr 30, 2015 2:13 PM, "N7FN--- via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:


Hi,

I need to know, from you 38LF owners, where in the mast step your mast is
positioned.

Right now my mast is all the way aft in the step but I can see that the mast
was positioned in the step farther forward at one time.

The only reason that it is all the way aft is because that is where the
workers in the yard put it.

Any ideas about how the boat would sail if the mast was positioned all the
way forward as opposed to all the way aft?  I have seen adjustments for
moving the mast in it's step on some sports boats.

Frank Noragon
C&C 38LF, s/n 001
Rose City Yacht Club
Portland, Oregon 

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