Erik,

 

The keel joint on the 35-3 can be a pain.  The “C&C Smile” as it is known, 
often appears as the hull to keel joint opens up.  Many times this is only a 
cosmetic issue.  I have removed and replaced the keel on my boat once in an 
attempt to cure this problem.  It has worked well.  The sources of my problem 
were many.   The keel stub had cracks in it.  The mast step had sunk a bit.  I 
also had some water stagnating in the mast step.  All of these problems were 
solved by removing the keel, reinforcing the keel stub, and reengineering the 
mast step.  Cheap?  No.   But the boat is stronger for it.

 

Your problem may not be as serious, but deserves some consideration.  The 
forward keel bolt is under the mast.  The only way to tighten it is to remove 
the mast.  I have done that again this season.  If the forward bolt stays 
tight, I think the keel will have less of a tendency to separate from the keel 
stub.  Minor gaps can be filled and painted.  Significant gaps should be 
addressed as I have done.

 

One of the things to think about is how much backstay tension you use.  
Anything over 2,000# is going to turn the boat into a banana and start to 
separate the keel.  I try to keep it under 1,500#.

 

I have pics of my R&R job.  If you’d like to see them contact me off list.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

“Midnight Mistress”

C&C 35 Mk-III

Hampton VA

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Erik 
Hillenmeyer via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 12:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C 35-3 Keel Joint

 

Anyone else have annual issues with the keel joint on this boat?  I've owned 
the boat only three seasons, but it's been a source of frustration every year.  
I've never understood the design, especially the 4 foot long front bolt.  The 
keel was rebed and the bolts tourqed two years ago, but still every fall when I 
haul out there is crack in the joint across the front 1/3 - 1/2 of the keel.  
The only semi-permanent solution the yard can think of is to encase the joint 
in glass, but admits with all the flexing that clearly goes on, it's probably 
not much of a solution.  Should I resign myself to just filling and fairing 
with caulk every spring before the bottom paint goes on?  The boat had only one 
owner before me and it's been at the same yard for all its 31 years, so they 
know it well, but thought I'd get an opinion from the group.

 

Erik

Chicago

C&C 35 MKIII Slapshot

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