or a cat!

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> It sounds like you really need to own two boats. A trawler around 36 - 42
> feet for trips with the wife, and a C&C 25, 27, or 30 that you and your son
> can race relatively I expensively and also daysail when the wife isn't
> along.
>
> Take heart. It has been said that all of us will end up in a trawler as we
> get into our 70s (and in a land yacht after that), so you would just be
> getting ahead of the curve.
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 23, 2014, at 22:44, Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.  All good, but not for my girl.
> Hiring a coach or taking a course won't change the fact that she doesn't
> like that sailboats lean when powered up.  She's just not interested in a
> sailing course or coaching or changing.  We're 60 and been together 30+
> years.  We've had this boat for 12 years and she likes harbor cruises under
> power or anchoring overnight, or all the social stuff at the dock or
> rafting up.  My daughter is the same.  My son however is like me and took
> to sailing right off.  He joined his college's sailing team and loves
> racing with me.  I've raced the boat without my wife or daughter and won
> regattas with 1st time ever crew, so I assure you I am fairly competent.  I
> can calmly explain which line to put to what winch and which way to turn it
> and never raise my voice except to be heard.  I've put newbies on the wheel
> and coached them to steer and they loved steering.  I've also taken guests
> who just wanted a ride, didn't want to do anything and I just set the
> autohelm and do it all like I do when I'm alone.  My wife likes that style
> until it gets above 10 knots when the boat comes alive and we start making
> 6 plus knots and heel to 25 degrees cause the apparent becomes 16 and then
> we're doing 7.3 knots and lovin it, until she's almost crying something
> like, "do you have to make it lean so much?  Let's find a place to go
> swimming."
>
> She's missing the sailing gene, but I can't change her and she has no
> desire to take a course or let me hire a coach.  I guess I'll run our boat
> like a trawler when she's aboard, and save the sailing for when she's not
> there.   I'm gonna order that tow toy.
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>
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> *From: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *To: *"Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>, "CNC boat owners,
> cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:44:09 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
>
> Ok, here's a response from a woman.....
>
> I married into sailing. Started with a small boat, took trips to New
> England and the Caribbean on  charters in significantly larger boats (where
> my love for C&C began). I learned to love the lifestyle and a bit of racing
> but what really shifted my thinking was crewing on someone else's boat.
>
> Consider this, expectations are high and so is pressure when sailing with
> a spouse. When sailing on another accomplished skippers boat as added crew,
> you see how the experienced crew handles everything and before you know it
> you relax,  a few years have passed, and your right there with them, loving
> every second.....
>
> I wouldn't expect every wife to catch the bug I did, but they might
> certainly see sailing from a different perspective and enjoy it more with a
> higher level of confidence.
>
> I know on Lake Lanier and other bodies of water there are some very
> patient and good skippers that would welcome a learning spouse. I'd be
> happy to help as well...
>
> Joanne Mocny
> S/V Obsession
> C&C 37/40+
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Try Womanship - they have a school in Annapolis, but hold classes in the
> Caribbean.
>
> A friend went - loved it.
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *To:* Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Jean-Francois J Rivard <jfriv...@us.ibm.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
>
> Dennis / others,
>
> Do you have any recommendations for such a course, preferably somewhere
> warm and with some considerable learning opportunities (moving from very
> competent crew to command / self-sufficiency, not basics)?  Bev / other
> female listers, I'd be interested in your opinions too.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
> On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:31 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Don't just send your lady to sailing lessons.  Send her to a week long
> ladies only sailing class.  It's a LOT different than taking lessons with a
> coed group.  She will not just get sailing lessons, she will get emotional
> support, counselling, share experiences with other women, etc.  Chances are
> it will be a much more positive experience for her.
>
> I've had a couple lady friends do it and they absolutely swear it's the
> only way to learn sailing.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll let you guys know how the lessons help..
>>
>> Racing did not help, she clammed-up even worse for fear that she'd screw
>> something up. Even if on that particular race, everything that could be
>> screwed-up was already taken care of  so no one really cared.  No amount of
>> screwing-up was going to make our last place any worse.  :-)
>>
>> Giving her the helm.. Been there done that, same result.
>>
>> Talking to other wifes.. It depends,  At the club parties it runs the
>> gammut from enthusiastic sailor ladies to killjoys that never come out
>> sailing, just show up for parties..  When she runs into the lather all they
>> say is too hot, too cold, too windy, too sunny, too humid, etc, etc.   then
>>  I'm loosing ground.
>>
>> I'm banking on the lessons..  Truth to be told, if you're that much not
>> into the boating thing, just sitting around on a boat is not much more fun
>> than sitting around anywhere else.. Especially given the fact that on the
>> lake, when it's (Really) windy, it's usually not very sunny, often a bit
>> coldish,  so you have to look at the big picture to appreciate what's going
>> on.
>>
>> On the plus she's fairly athletic so maybe once she told what's what by
>> someone else and understands better what's going on she'll get into the
>> workout / physical side of it and get a little rush that way...
>>
>> I guess that's typical boat stuff:  one more thing to figure out...
>>
>> -Francois
>> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
>> Lake Lanier, Georgia.
>>
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