Chuck, It sounds like you really need to own two boats. A trawler around 36 - 42 feet for trips with the wife, and a C&C 25, 27, or 30 that you and your son can race relatively I expensively and also daysail when the wife isn't along.
Take heart. It has been said that all of us will end up in a trawler as we get into our 70s (and in a land yacht after that), so you would just be getting ahead of the curve. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad > On Sep 23, 2014, at 22:44, Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestions. All good, but not for my girl. > Hiring a coach or taking a course won't change the fact that she doesn't like > that sailboats lean when powered up. She's just not interested in a sailing > course or coaching or changing. We're 60 and been together 30+ years. We've > had this boat for 12 years and she likes harbor cruises under power or > anchoring overnight, or all the social stuff at the dock or rafting up. My > daughter is the same. My son however is like me and took to sailing right > off. He joined his college's sailing team and loves racing with me. I've > raced the boat without my wife or daughter and won regattas with 1st time > ever crew, so I assure you I am fairly competent. I can calmly explain which > line to put to what winch and which way to turn it and never raise my voice > except to be heard. I've put newbies on the wheel and coached them to steer > and they loved steering. I've also taken guests who just wanted a ride, > didn't want to do anything and I just set the autohelm and do it all like I > do when I'm alone. My wife likes that style until it gets above 10 knots > when the boat comes alive and we start making 6 plus knots and heel to 25 > degrees cause the apparent becomes 16 and then we're doing 7.3 knots and > lovin it, until she's almost crying something like, "do you have to make it > lean so much? Let's find a place to go swimming." > > She's missing the sailing gene, but I can't change her and she has no desire > to take a course or let me hire a coach. I guess I'll run our boat like a > trawler when she's aboard, and save the sailing for when she's not there. > I'm gonna order that tow toy. > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:44:09 PM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans > > Ok, here's a response from a woman..... > > I married into sailing. Started with a small boat, took trips to New England > and the Caribbean on charters in significantly larger boats (where my love > for C&C began). I learned to love the lifestyle and a bit of racing but what > really shifted my thinking was crewing on someone else's boat. > > Consider this, expectations are high and so is pressure when sailing with a > spouse. When sailing on another accomplished skippers boat as added crew, you > see how the experienced crew handles everything and before you know it you > relax, a few years have passed, and your right there with them, loving every > second..... > > I wouldn't expect every wife to catch the bug I did, but they might certainly > see sailing from a different perspective and enjoy it more with a higher > level of confidence. > > I know on Lake Lanier and other bodies of water there are some very patient > and good skippers that would welcome a learning spouse. I'd be happy to help > as well... > > Joanne Mocny > S/V Obsession > C&C 37/40+ > > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Try Womanship - they have a school in Annapolis, but hold classes in the > Caribbean. > > A friend went - loved it. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-List > To: Dennis C. ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Jean-Francois J Rivard > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans > > Dennis / others, > > Do you have any recommendations for such a course, preferably somewhere warm > and with some considerable learning opportunities (moving from very competent > crew to command / self-sufficiency, not basics)? Bev / other female listers, > I'd be interested in your opinions too. > > Thanks, > > Tim > > On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:31 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > Don't just send your lady to sailing lessons. Send her to a week long ladies > only sailing class. It's a LOT different than taking lessons with a coed > group. She will not just get sailing lessons, she will get emotional > support, counselling, share experiences with other women, etc. Chances are > it will be a much more positive experience for her. > > I've had a couple lady friends do it and they absolutely swear it's the only > way to learn sailing. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> I'll let you guys know how the lessons help.. >> >> >> Racing did not help, she clammed-up even worse for fear that she'd screw >> something up. Even if on that particular race, everything that could be >> screwed-up was already taken care of so no one really cared. No amount of >> screwing-up was going to make our last place any worse. :-) >> >> >> Giving her the helm.. Been there done that, same result. >> >> >> Talking to other wifes.. It depends, At the club parties it runs the gammut >> from enthusiastic sailor ladies to killjoys that never come out sailing, >> just show up for parties.. When she runs into the lather all they say is >> too hot, too cold, too windy, too sunny, too humid, etc, etc. then I'm >> loosing ground. >> >> >> I'm banking on the lessons.. Truth to be told, if you're that much not into >> the boating thing, just sitting around on a boat is not much more fun than >> sitting around anywhere else.. Especially given the fact that on the lake, >> when it's (Really) windy, it's usually not very sunny, often a bit coldish, >> so you have to look at the big picture to appreciate what's going on. >> >> >> On the plus she's fairly athletic so maybe once she told what's what by >> someone else and understands better what's going on she'll get into the >> workout / physical side of it and get a little rush that way... >> >> >> I guess that's typical boat stuff: one more thing to figure out... >> >> >> -Francois >> 1990 34+ "Take Five" >> Lake Lanier, Georgia. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >
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