Chuck,

        I don’t think it needs to be dry in there. A small hole in the bottom 
of the keel will drain whatever is in there every time the boat is hauled. 


        All the best,

        Edd


        Edd M. Schillay
        Starship Enterprise
        C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
        City Island, NY 
        Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Very logical evaluation Captain,
> 
> Just a concern?  How will you winterize the centerboard trunk?  How will you 
> be sure it is dry in there?
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:35:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealed-Up Centerboard and PHRF Credit
> 
> Paul,
> 
>  It’s been a hell of an experience. Turns out the divers went down on Sunday 
> (I was on board working on other things) and they told me they couldn’t get 
> their hands/tools in there to get the cotter pins undone to pull the peg out 
> and connect a new cable. Turns out cable replacement access isn’t all that 
> great on a 37+ and requires a haul every time. Plus, where the cable was 
> frayed, based on my measurements, was somewhere in the system that nobody 
> could ever view without taking the whole damn thing apart. 
> 
>  Add to that — we could not push a new cable down because it starts on deck, 
> makes a 90-degree turn down through a stainless tube, then, in the bilge and 
> completely sealed, it makes another 90-degree turn aft, and then a quick 
> additional 90-degree turn down. Could not get the cable to make that last 
> turn. 
> 
>  And then I thought I’m going to have to do all this again in 5 years. And 
> maybe it will break again. And maybe the next time it breaks it will do some 
> serious keel damage. I just said, and I quote, “Screw it!”
> 
>  The yard is pulling the boat today, pushing the board in, bolting it in 
> place and sealing the slot. As far as I can tell, I’ll have the only 
> shoal-draft C&C 37+ on the planet (or, using terms we usually use on the 
> boat, the galaxy).
> 
>  There were, of course, two concerns: Performance and Resale Value. 
> 
>  Performance upwind in 10+ will be affected, but let’s be honest, we only use 
> the board when racing, have found it to slow us down in under 10 and, if 
> you’re familiar with Western Long Island Sound, days of 10+ are few and far 
> between. Add to that the limited about of racing we do (non-spin in a beer 
> can night series only) and the cost/worry of maintaining a centerboard 
> system, I decided I could live with the reduced performance. 
> 
>  As to resale value, I think the board is really only a value to a 
> racing-oriented owner, and it’s not a C&C 37R, but a C&C 37+. I think 
> racing-oriented shoppers are going to be looking for J-Boats, Beneteaus, etc. 
> and not a 18,500 lb.-displacement cruiser. I also think that a prospective 
> buyer will like the idea of a shoal-draft roomy cruiser with a now 
> zero-maintence keel.
> 
>  Of course, I may be wrong, but as I tell people, “I may not always be right, 
> but I’m never in doubt.” 
> 
>  Either way, it’s getting done today/tomorrow. 
> 
> 
>  All the best,
> 
>  Edd
> 
> 
>  Edd M. Schillay
>  Starship Enterprise
>  C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>  City Island, NY 
>  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Paul Fountain <p...@seasource.ca> wrote:
> 
> Edd,
> 
> I can smile and relate to your cb challenges... 
> 
> 2 years ago when we moved Perception to the yard for winter storage I had 2 
> friends help.. 1 a power boater the other a sailor, asked the sailor to 
> release the starboard jib halyard - clearly marked .... And guess which 
> stopper he pulled .. Yup the centreboard ... And the cable snapped.
> 
> We were able to hauler her and put her in her cradle for the winter. Pulled 
> the cable out and it was badly corroded ... Just a few strands intact so over 
> due for replacement. Arranged to have south shore yachts do the replacement - 
> and when ghey removed the pin and remaining cable the pin was 70% or more 
> worn thru, the thimble was also well worn ...
> 
> Good thing it happened in a calm harbour .... And the admiral was not on 
> board.....
> 
> The new fittings look much more substantial and should out last my sailing 
> days!
> 
> Paul. :)
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:41 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Just curious — does anyone, or know of anyone, who sealed up their 
> centerboard and received a PHRF credit on their rating? I’m curious to know 
> how much credit was given. I’ve been told it can be anywhere from 3-9 points. 
> ‘
> 
> Mine is getting bolted in place and sealed up for good tomorrow. 
> 
> Long story, but now is the time. Read the Captain’s Log if you’re curious.
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise (To be the world’s only shoal-draft C&C 37+)
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B 
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
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