Oftentimes the southeast coast marinas have pretty thin water (as does ICW) so 
a cb allows you to dock your boat almost anywhere.


At the same time, when the water is deeper, dropping the board allows the boat 
to go to weather as well as any deep fin keel, although
the cb trunk is a lot 'thicker' than most fin keels since it must accommodate 
the board. 


She isn't as fast to weather as the 36 foot fin keels but at least she points 
at the same angle--something that will never happen with a shallower keel or 
wing keel--too much leeway.


Further, AFAIK, C&C cb boats always had a substantial cb trunk so that the boat 
had a heavy keel, even with the cb retracted. Thus pinning the board up 
affects primarily the ability to go to weather. 
 
For instance, my cb/keel has about a 5600 lb keel/cb (per the specifications) 
and the board weighs ~ 1000 lbs. Up or down, I have plenty of ballast and a 
ballast to displacement ratio of about 0.41 no matter where the board is!


Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb


cenel...@aol.com




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From: dwight via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: 'Hoyt, Mike' <mike.h...@impgroup.com>; cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 2, 2014 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealed-Up Centerboard and PHRF Credit


I thought the idea of the CB designs was to accommodate areas that had water
depth issues...luckily we don't have much problem like that around here but
I could have used a CB design a few times, especially I remember the sandy
shoals in Eastern Passage 

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt,
Mike via CnC-List
Sent: June 2, 2014 8:46 PM
To: Paul Fountain; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealed-Up Centerboard and PHRF Credit

I am just a wee bit curious.  Did c&c put cb in these boats for a reason?
do they suck upwind without them? Do they capsize?  .. or was the designer
an anal idiot that put something totally unnecessary and useless and
complicated on the boat?

Sorry Edd. I read this and just gotta ask

Mike




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From: CnC-List on behalf of Paul Fountain via CnC-List
Sent: Mon 02/06/2014 6:53 PM
To: Edd Schillay; <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealed-Up Centerboard and PHRF Credit
 
Edd,

I can smile and relate to your cb challenges...

2 years ago when we moved Perception to the yard for winter storage I had 2
friends help.. 1 a power boater the other a sailor, asked the sailor to
release the starboard jib halyard - clearly marked .... And guess which
stopper he pulled .. Yup the centreboard ... And the cable snapped.

We were able to hauler her and put her in her cradle for the winter. Pulled
the cable out and it was badly corroded ... Just a few strands intact so
over due for replacement. Arranged to have south shore yachts do the
replacement - and when ghey removed the pin and remaining cable the pin was
70% or more worn thru, the thimble was also well worn ...

Good thing it happened in a calm harbour .... And the admiral was not on
board.....

The new fittings look much more substantial and should out last my sailing
days!

Paul. :)


On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:41 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List"
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Listers,

Just curious - does anyone, or know of anyone, who sealed up their
centerboard and received a PHRF credit on their rating? I'm curious to know
how much credit was given. I've been told it can be anywhere from 3-9
points. '

Mine is getting bolted in place and sealed up for good tomorrow.

Long story, but now is the time. Read the Captain's Log if you're curious.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise (To be the world's only shoal-draft C&C 37+)
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>

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