Let us know what you get from PHRF.
On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:41 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List
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>Listers,
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>Just to clarify -- there are several 37+ cb's out there.
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>After tomorrow I'll probably have the only shoal draft C&C 37+.
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>All the best,
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>Edd
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>Edd M. Schillay
>Starship Enterprise
>NCC-1701-B
>C&C 37+ | City Island, NY
>www.StarshipSailing.com
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>On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Michael Cotton via CnC-List
><cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>I was "involved" with a 1990 C&C 37+ named "Blue Pearl" out of Mt Sinai
>Harbor. It must be the only other 37+ cb'er in existence. I fully agree with
>you about board up/down on performance. The best use of the centerboard was
>when staying at Newport YC in Jersey city. With the board down it really
>helped control the roll from Hudson river traffic.
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>Michael Cotton
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>On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 2:36 PM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List
><cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>>Replacement sounds just like mine ... Same challenges. Pin was a bear to
>>remove no room to work, and cotter pin was fully bent back on both legs, only
>>room for 1 hand. To fish the new one in they removed the shiv in the on deck
>>turning block, dropped a weighted line down, attached the new cable and
>>pulled it up, marked the cable for full down then moved the board up and
>>swagged the 2 ferrels on. Had to be that was as the lower swage was done in
>>the shop on a roll press ... Total cost including haul and hang was about
>>$800 Canadian.
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>>We cruise only these days, and I like the board down in all but light winds
>>... It does stabilize the boat in the chop we get on Lake Ontario - but even
>>here there are times it is great to have.
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>>Sent from my iPad
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>>On Jun 3, 2014, at 1:36 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List"
>><cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>>Paul,
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>>>It’s been a hell of an experience. Turns out the divers went down on Sunday
>>>(I was on board working on other things) and they told me they couldn’t get
>>>their hands/tools in there to get the cotter pins undone to pull the peg out
>>>and connect a new cable. Turns out cable replacement access isn’t all that
>>>great on a 37+ and requires a haul every time. Plus, where the cable was
>>>frayed, based on my measurements, was somewhere in the system that nobody
>>>could ever view without taking the whole damn thing apart.
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>>>Add to that — we could not push a new cable down because it starts on deck,
>>>makes a 90-degree turn down through a stainless tube, then, in the bilge and
>>>completely sealed, it makes another 90-degree turn aft, and then a quick
>>>additional 90-degree turn down. Could not get the cable to make that last
>>>turn.
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>>>
>>>And then I thought I’m going to have to do all this again in 5 years. And
>>>maybe it will break again. And maybe the next time it breaks it will do some
>>>serious keel damage. I just said, and I quote, “Screw it!”
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>>>
>>>The yard is pulling the boat today, pushing the board in, bolting it in
>>>place and sealing the slot. As far as I can tell, I’ll have the only
>>>shoal-draft C&C 37+ on the planet (or, using terms we usually use on the
>>>boat, the galaxy).
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>>>
>>>There were, of course, two concerns: Performance and Resale Value.
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>>>Performance upwind in 10+ will be affected, but let’s be honest, we only use
>>>the board when racing, have found it to slow us down in under 10 and, if
>>>you’re familiar with Western Long Island Sound, days of 10+ are few and far
>>>between. Add to that the limited about of racing we do (non-spin in a beer
>>>can night series only) and the cost/worry of maintaining a centerboard
>>>system, I decided I could live with the reduced performance.
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>>>As to resale value, I think the board is really only a value to a
>>>racing-oriented owner, and it’s not a C&C 37R, but a C&C 37+. I think
>>>racing-oriented shoppers are going to be looking for J-Boats, Beneteaus,
>>>etc. and not a 18,500 lb.-displacement cruiser. I also think that a
>>>prospective buyer will like the idea of a shoal-draft roomy cruiser with a
>>>now zero-maintence keel.
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>>>Of course, I may be wrong, but as I tell people, “I may not always be right,
>>>but I’m never in doubt.”
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>>>Either way, it’s getting done today/tomorrow.
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>>>All the best,
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>>>Edd
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>>>Edd M. Schillay
>>>Starship Enterprise
>>>C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>>City Island, NY
>>>Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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>>>On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Paul Fountain <p...@seasource.ca> wrote:
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>>>Edd,
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>>>>I can smile and relate to your cb challenges...
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>>>>2 years ago when we moved Perception to the yard for winter storage I had 2
>>>>friends help.. 1 a power boater the other a sailor, asked the sailor to
>>>>release the starboard jib halyard - clearly marked .... And guess which
>>>>stopper he pulled .. Yup the centreboard ... And the cable snapped.
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>>>>We were able to hauler her and put her in her cradle for the winter. Pulled
>>>>the cable out and it was badly corroded ... Just a few strands intact so
>>>>over due for replacement. Arranged to have south shore yachts do the
>>>>replacement - and when ghey removed the pin and remaining cable the pin was
>>>>70% or more worn thru, the thimble was also well worn ...
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>>>>Good thing it happened in a calm harbour .... And the admiral was not on
>>>>board.....
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>>>>The new fittings look much more substantial and should out last my sailing
>>>>days!
>>>>
>>>>Paul. :)
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>>>>On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:41 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List"
>>>><cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>>>>Listers,
>>>>>
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>>>>>Just curious — does anyone, or know of anyone, who sealed up their
>>>>>centerboard and received a PHRF credit on their rating? I’m curious to
>>>>>know how much credit was given. I’ve been told it can be anywhere from 3-9
>>>>>points. ‘
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>>>>>Mine is getting bolted in place and sealed up for good tomorrow.
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>>>>>Long story, but now is the time. Read the Captain’s Log if you’re curious.
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>>>>>All the best,
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>>>>>Edd
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>>>>>Edd M. Schillay
>>>>>Starship Enterprise (To be the world’s only shoal-draft C&C 37+)
>>>>>C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>>>>City Island, NY
>>>>>Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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