Excuse me for belaboring this, Joel, I'm not sure you're quite seeing my
point. If you're in the water, having just fallen overboard, how do you get
the ladder down?

I think this is just as important in the marina as it is out on the chuck,
especially around here where it's cold water year round.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 6 February 2014 13:15, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Yes it will.  I have a line on the ladder to make it easier to pull the
> ladder up - but I don't use a dinghy and would only use the ladder for
> swimming or MOB retrieval.  If I had a dinghy I would do as you do.  All a
> matter of perspective!
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have never had the ladder fall down, so I just let gravity do the work.
>> I have a line off the back so you can pull the ladder down from in the
>> water, I think any physical restraint is going to make that more difficult.
>>
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C&C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>>
>>
>> On 6 February 2014 11:37, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mine is the same.  People thread the gate through the ladder to keep the
>>> ladder up.  I prefer a bungee.
>>>
>>> Joel
>>> 35/3
>>> Annapolis
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's ours...simple enough to cut the top rail and put in a gate.
>>>> Remember to leave the ladder on the outside of the gate so you can pull it
>>>> down from the water. Both our C&C's came from the PO with the gate wire
>>>> threaded through the ladder, for some inscrutable reason.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UXUqb120Ihw/Uh9uoRAymRI/AAAAAAAABTs/4SocqvNPCic/w1270-h857-no/storm+riding.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim Watts
>>>> Paradigm Shift
>>>> C&C 35 Mk III
>>>> Victoria, BC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6 February 2014 10:48, Dennis Cheuvront <capt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's what I was describing in my earlier reply.  Easy to do.  Ends
>>>>> caps with eyes are relatively inexpensive.  Just cut the rail leaving a
>>>>> little stub, insert end cap with eye and make the lifeline gate.  Done.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't have a lower rail and are worried about strength of the
>>>>> pulpit, you can install one with a couple of rail tees on the vertical
>>>>> pulpit section and a short section of rail.  Would provide a lower rail to
>>>>> step over.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that I visualize this, I might actually do this on Touche'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis C.
>>>>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>>>> Mandeville, LA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Prime Interest <
>>>>> primeinter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Take a look at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.barkers-island-marina.com/yachtworld/sail.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the $19,900 C&C 32 .. photo #2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prime Interest
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1982 C&C Landfall
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Toronto, Canada
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf
>>>>>> Of *John Russo
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:52 PM
>>>>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List [SPAM] Climing over the stern rail is a pain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Bob, that would be helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> johnrussob...@optonline.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* CnC-List 
>>>>>> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>]
>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Robert Abbott
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:39 PM
>>>>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* [SPAM]Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our 32 has a lower rail and a gate up top.....looks to be factory but
>>>>>> not sure....can send you a pic offline if you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob Abbott
>>>>>> AZURA
>>>>>> C&C 32 - 84
>>>>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014/02/05 3:33 PM, John Russo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a 32 with a double rail at the stern and am thinking about
>>>>>> cutting the upper and adding a gate. My swim ladder actually comes 
>>>>>> slightly
>>>>>> above the lower rail when up where it tie it. My concern is that I have a
>>>>>> motor mount and  a 65 Lb outboard on the stern rail port side vertical 
>>>>>> post
>>>>>> which I will have to shift more to port but wondered about the rail
>>>>>> strength after cutting. Any thoughts?   I am also looking for a lighter
>>>>>> outboard with a little less HP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arpeggio 32
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norwalk CT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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