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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 3:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Size C&C 29-2


  Expanding on Curtis' post, I have a geared Flexofold (just been delivered - 3 
days Denmark to Calgary - I’m impressed) I assume, as the blades are geared 
together, that blade position doesn't matter - yes? 

  sam :-)
        From: Curtis
        Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:36 PM
        To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
        Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
        Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Size C&C 29-2 



  Thanks that helps. Good Idea. I plan to dive this weekend to put the Zink on 
the shaft I will Market then. 
  Thanks again.



  On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com> wrote:

    Curtis,


    I put it in reverse and it closes right up. For racing, I have the shaft 
marked for when the blades are horizontal, so when I put the boat in gear they 
fold best. Otherwise, when vertical, the lower one my drop (gravity is a 
bitch). 




    All the best,


    Edd




    Edd M. Schillay
    Starship Enterprise
    C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
    City Island, NY 
    Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website


    On Jan 15, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:


      When sailing how do I get the prop in the correct position or collapsed. 
Do I put the transmission in rev? I have a 2 blad mertec folder prop and a 
2gm20F Yanmay and a Kenzaki KM2P transmission?





      On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Jerome Tauber <jrtau...@aol.com> wrote:

        I had a 29-2 for 10 years.  It is actually a 28.5 foot boat with a 13 
hp engine.   I used a martec folding prop and it worked fine.  If I were going 
to a new prop kiwi props are lighter, less drag and will outperform the heavy 
brass bronze props made by Gori, Flexofold, etc.   They are also more 
economical and adjustable.  A friend put one on his Sweden 38 and he raves 
about it.   Jerry. C&C 27-v.   

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        On Jan 15, 2014, at 12:32 PM, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> 
wrote:


          I’m a bit surprised at the recommendation from Flex-o-fold. Seems 
like a lot of prop for a boat that is essentially 30 ft with a 15 HP engine. 



          For perspective, a friend’s J/30 with an 18HP Yanmar has a 12x9 
Martec. The Gori for my C&C 38 with a 36 HP Universal @3000 RPM is a 16x10, and 
the Martec recommendation was 16x10 ½.



          Suggest you contact Flex=o=fold and discuss the recommendation with 
them. They may have made a mistake in one of the inputs for the recommendation. 
For example, the reduction gear: A prop for a 2:1 reduction gear would have 
more pitch than one for a 1.5:1 reduction. IIRC there are more than 1 reduction 
gears available on the Yanmar engines.



          I would also contact Campbell, MaxProp, and Gori to see what they 
recommend.



          Rick Brass



          From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
Martin Kane
          Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:01 AM
          To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
          Subject: Stus-List Prop Size C&C 29-2



          I’d like to tap into the collective experience of C&C 29-2 and/or 
Yanmar 2GM (15hp @3600) owners.



          My 29-2 , acquired 3 years ago, had a 15x9 3 blade fixed prop 
installed and 15x10 2 blade Gori spare. This was my first diesel engine and 
initially I was quite pleased when I could reach 5knts at about 1800 +/- rpm 
and would top out around 2200 rpm. After learning more about diesels I realized 
the boat was overpropped. The next season I installed the 15x10 Gori and the 
overpropping is worse – black smoke starting around 2100rpm and reduced ability 
to push thru wind/waves. The Yanmar tach shows 3600 max rpm in neutral  and 
also matches the reading on a laser tach at 2000rpm.



          I’m looking for a new prop and am considering a Campbell Sailor, 2 
blade Flexofold, or 2 blade Max Prop.  On the basis of the current performance 
and C&C owner’s manual I was thinking that a correctly sized 2 blade prop would 
be 14” diameter and 8 or 9” pitch.

          I submitted a sizing/quote request to Flexofold and they recommended 
a 15x11 – which was not what I was expecting.



          I’d be grateful to hear what type/size props other listers have on 
their 29-2s or Yanmar 2GM-15s and how satisfied they are.



          Martin 

          C&C 29-2 Recalculating

          Mimico Cruising Club



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