Josh, Good point.


On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Some people also worry about the constant point loading on the winch
> bearings.  Which one is more likely to wear out, the winch or the cleat?
> Which one is more expensive to repair or repace?
>
> Josh
> On Jan 4, 2014 3:15 PM, "Curtis" <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dwight,
>> The topping lift I don't use. I have that mechanical vang. So the topping
>> lift is usually just loosely tied. Unfortunately where I sail "Beaufort SC"
>> we don't have  much wind.Only if a front is passing through.  I use the
>> rear winch for dock line just because it was what I've always done? My rear
>> cleat is close to the winch I could use the cleat while at the dock and the
>> winch when visiting other peers and docks.
>> I'm still learning this business. March will be my second full year as a
>> owner.
>>
>> Thanks a gain for all the great advice.
>> Curtis.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:31 AM, dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>      Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing the photos.  Something that I noticed is that your
>>> docking lines appear to be fastened to your winches…I recommend that you
>>> consider using an aft cleat for the stern lines (similar to how you have
>>> the bow line) and midship attachment (to the toe rail for example) for
>>> *separate* fore and aft spring lines.  It might make a difference if
>>> conditions get unexpectedly rough at the marina. Also I believe your
>>> topping lift might work better and be more out of the way if it were
>>> connected to the very aft end of the boom. I notice you have a 4:1 purchase
>>> on the main sheet; if you find the sail hard to trim close hauled in
>>> heavier air you could easily increase that to 5:1 if the fiddle block on
>>> your boom had a becket like this one:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://ca.binnacle.com/p4288/HARKEN-FIDDLE-BLOCK-W/BECKET/product_info.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *
>>> Curtis
>>> *Sent:* January 4, 2014 1:15 AM
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List single handing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My finger has the wind predominantly out of the south or off the stern.
>>> but sometime it blows me into the dock. I also have the pleasure of the 
>>> South
>>> Carolina ripping tides of from 7 to 9 feet per cycle. So first of all I
>>> have learned to pick my battles. If it is to harsh I tie up at the face
>>> dock til the lull tide. If I have an outgoing tide I can do it up to mid
>>> tide if there is no wind to deal with. I can manage to crab it in the birth
>>> with the current off the nose. I keep a 8 foot ling over the rear winch and
>>> a bow line and a amidship spring line. I get the nose in and I got it. I do
>>> ask for help if its a harsh day. Otherwize I have no trouble. It is worth
>>> just picking a day for a short in and out of the slip practice. Maybe I
>>> plan an afternoon day sail but get there way early prep the boat and ease
>>> her out and swing in" calibrate the wind vane or the electronic compass.
>>> then birth her and wate for the guest to show and take her out again.
>>> Practice, Practice,Practice. I'm new to all of this but learning fast.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all you guys and your help I may not bounce off any of the
>>> guys boats in the marina.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers. Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s31/LTGoshen/New%20Bimini%20Nov%202013/20131031_180302_zpsb64aa2f6.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Agree about dockside help.  Many times a powerboater not used to pointy
>>> boats, will pull my sailboat's bowline too tight to the finger.  Last year,
>>> A 20 year veteran boatyard worker helped me to tie up.  I had all my lines
>>> coiled at the gate and was motoring in neutral into a slip with a slight
>>> headwind, keeping steerageway and planning to give her a slight burst of
>>> reverse after I got inside the outer pilings.  I asked the guy to take the
>>> bowline as it came in reach and before I knew it he tied it tight to a
>>> cleat midway on the float, and before I could do anything the bow was
>>> pulled to the side and the hull pulled into the finger.  I jumped onto the
>>> float and stopped the boat but not before the hull ahead of my fenders was
>>> gouged  by a sharp edge of a plank.  I asked why he didn't allow the boat
>>> to fully enter the slip and why tie to the wrong cleat?  He said wasn't
>>> aware of my ability and he didn't think I could stop the boat and he was
>>> used to 70 foot Viking Yachts that have so much power they can destroy the
>>> dock.  He meant well.  We're still friends, but now I only hand out a
>>> midship line when people want to help.  If they pull on that too hard, the
>>> fenders will protect the hull.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>> *Resolute*
>>> 1990 C&C 34R
>>> Atlantic City, NJ
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Bill Bina" <billb...@sbcglobal.net>
>>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Sent: *Friday, January 3, 2014 8:10:13 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List single handing
>>>
>>> I actually don't like strangers assisting me in docking. We haven't
>>> rehearsed together, and that makes for surprises that I can do without.
>>> The other tip, is that although you don't want to come in too fast, most
>>> botched dockings I see are caused by going so slow that steerage and
>>> lift on the keel becomes weak or lacking. When entering my slip, I'm
>>> traveling downstream, usually with a crosswind. I have to move faster
>>> than the river to maintain control. Knowing what stage of tide is
>>> critical, as just before low tide, is the fastest current of all. That
>>> also means my boat goes sideways faster as I make the turn across the
>>> current to enter the fairway. So I need to compensate for that as well.
>>> If the tide is rising, current is slower and docking is considerably
>>> easier for me. Practice is more than just repetition. You have to
>>> observe details and remember them.
>>>
>>> Bill Bina
>>>
>>> On 1/3/2014 11:42 AM, Curtis wrote:
>>> > Being a good single handler doesn’t mean you can’t ask for help. It’s
>>> > not that you have to do it all yourself at the dock. Plenty of people
>>> > at my dock, and always willing to grab a line. Asking for help in a
>>> > tight means you are being smart. The more I do it the better I get at
>>> > doing it. I also think of all sorts of thing that help me aide the
>>> > process. Like running the anchor chain and rode in a loop from the bow
>>> > to the stern with a pin release to let me drop anchor. Makes it real
>>> > nice and simple and safe to boot.
>>> > Keep us posted on the progress.
>>> > Cheers, LT
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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