Josh, Good point.
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some people also worry about the constant point loading on the winch > bearings. Which one is more likely to wear out, the winch or the cleat? > Which one is more expensive to repair or repace? > > Josh > On Jan 4, 2014 3:15 PM, "Curtis" <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Dwight, >> The topping lift I don't use. I have that mechanical vang. So the topping >> lift is usually just loosely tied. Unfortunately where I sail "Beaufort SC" >> we don't have much wind.Only if a front is passing through. I use the >> rear winch for dock line just because it was what I've always done? My rear >> cleat is close to the winch I could use the cleat while at the dock and the >> winch when visiting other peers and docks. >> I'm still learning this business. March will be my second full year as a >> owner. >> >> Thanks a gain for all the great advice. >> Curtis. >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:31 AM, dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Curt >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for sharing the photos. Something that I noticed is that your >>> docking lines appear to be fastened to your winches…I recommend that you >>> consider using an aft cleat for the stern lines (similar to how you have >>> the bow line) and midship attachment (to the toe rail for example) for >>> *separate* fore and aft spring lines. It might make a difference if >>> conditions get unexpectedly rough at the marina. Also I believe your >>> topping lift might work better and be more out of the way if it were >>> connected to the very aft end of the boom. I notice you have a 4:1 purchase >>> on the main sheet; if you find the sail hard to trim close hauled in >>> heavier air you could easily increase that to 5:1 if the fiddle block on >>> your boom had a becket like this one: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://ca.binnacle.com/p4288/HARKEN-FIDDLE-BLOCK-W/BECKET/product_info.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of * >>> Curtis >>> *Sent:* January 4, 2014 1:15 AM >>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List single handing >>> >>> >>> >>> My finger has the wind predominantly out of the south or off the stern. >>> but sometime it blows me into the dock. I also have the pleasure of the >>> South >>> Carolina ripping tides of from 7 to 9 feet per cycle. So first of all I >>> have learned to pick my battles. If it is to harsh I tie up at the face >>> dock til the lull tide. If I have an outgoing tide I can do it up to mid >>> tide if there is no wind to deal with. I can manage to crab it in the birth >>> with the current off the nose. I keep a 8 foot ling over the rear winch and >>> a bow line and a amidship spring line. I get the nose in and I got it. I do >>> ask for help if its a harsh day. Otherwize I have no trouble. It is worth >>> just picking a day for a short in and out of the slip practice. Maybe I >>> plan an afternoon day sail but get there way early prep the boat and ease >>> her out and swing in" calibrate the wind vane or the electronic compass. >>> then birth her and wate for the guest to show and take her out again. >>> Practice, Practice,Practice. I'm new to all of this but learning fast. >>> >>> Thanks to all you guys and your help I may not bounce off any of the >>> guys boats in the marina. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers. Curt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s31/LTGoshen/New%20Bimini%20Nov%202013/20131031_180302_zpsb64aa2f6.jpg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> Agree about dockside help. Many times a powerboater not used to pointy >>> boats, will pull my sailboat's bowline too tight to the finger. Last year, >>> A 20 year veteran boatyard worker helped me to tie up. I had all my lines >>> coiled at the gate and was motoring in neutral into a slip with a slight >>> headwind, keeping steerageway and planning to give her a slight burst of >>> reverse after I got inside the outer pilings. I asked the guy to take the >>> bowline as it came in reach and before I knew it he tied it tight to a >>> cleat midway on the float, and before I could do anything the bow was >>> pulled to the side and the hull pulled into the finger. I jumped onto the >>> float and stopped the boat but not before the hull ahead of my fenders was >>> gouged by a sharp edge of a plank. I asked why he didn't allow the boat >>> to fully enter the slip and why tie to the wrong cleat? He said wasn't >>> aware of my ability and he didn't think I could stop the boat and he was >>> used to 70 foot Viking Yachts that have so much power they can destroy the >>> dock. He meant well. We're still friends, but now I only hand out a >>> midship line when people want to help. If they pull on that too hard, the >>> fenders will protect the hull. >>> >>> >>> >>> Chuck >>> *Resolute* >>> 1990 C&C 34R >>> Atlantic City, NJ >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Bill Bina" <billb...@sbcglobal.net> >>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, January 3, 2014 8:10:13 PM >>> >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List single handing >>> >>> I actually don't like strangers assisting me in docking. We haven't >>> rehearsed together, and that makes for surprises that I can do without. >>> The other tip, is that although you don't want to come in too fast, most >>> botched dockings I see are caused by going so slow that steerage and >>> lift on the keel becomes weak or lacking. When entering my slip, I'm >>> traveling downstream, usually with a crosswind. I have to move faster >>> than the river to maintain control. Knowing what stage of tide is >>> critical, as just before low tide, is the fastest current of all. That >>> also means my boat goes sideways faster as I make the turn across the >>> current to enter the fairway. So I need to compensate for that as well. >>> If the tide is rising, current is slower and docking is considerably >>> easier for me. Practice is more than just repetition. You have to >>> observe details and remember them. >>> >>> Bill Bina >>> >>> On 1/3/2014 11:42 AM, Curtis wrote: >>> > Being a good single handler doesn’t mean you can’t ask for help. It’s >>> > not that you have to do it all yourself at the dock. Plenty of people >>> > at my dock, and always willing to grab a line. Asking for help in a >>> > tight means you are being smart. The more I do it the better I get at >>> > doing it. I also think of all sorts of thing that help me aide the >>> > process. Like running the anchor chain and rode in a loop from the bow >>> > to the stern with a pin release to let me drop anchor. Makes it real >>> > nice and simple and safe to boot. >>> > Keep us posted on the progress. >>> > Cheers, LT >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> “Sailors, with their built in sense of order, service and discipline, >>> should really be running the world.” - Nicholas Monsarrat >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6472 - Release Date: 01/03/14 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> “Sailors, with their built in sense of order, service and discipline, >> should really be running the world.” - Nicholas Monsarrat >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- “Sailors, with their built in sense of order, service and discipline, should really be running the world.” - Nicholas Monsarrat
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