Some people also worry about the constant point loading on the winch bearings. Which one is more likely to wear out, the winch or the cleat? Which one is more expensive to repair or repace?
Josh On Jan 4, 2014 3:15 PM, "Curtis" <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Dwight, > The topping lift I don't use. I have that mechanical vang. So the topping > lift is usually just loosely tied. Unfortunately where I sail "Beaufort SC" > we don't have much wind.Only if a front is passing through. I use the > rear winch for dock line just because it was what I've always done? My rear > cleat is close to the winch I could use the cleat while at the dock and the > winch when visiting other peers and docks. > I'm still learning this business. March will be my second full year as a > owner. > > Thanks a gain for all the great advice. > Curtis. > > > > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:31 AM, dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Curt >> >> >> >> Thanks for sharing the photos. Something that I noticed is that your >> docking lines appear to be fastened to your winches…I recommend that you >> consider using an aft cleat for the stern lines (similar to how you have >> the bow line) and midship attachment (to the toe rail for example) for >> *separate* fore and aft spring lines. It might make a difference if >> conditions get unexpectedly rough at the marina. Also I believe your >> topping lift might work better and be more out of the way if it were >> connected to the very aft end of the boom. I notice you have a 4:1 purchase >> on the main sheet; if you find the sail hard to trim close hauled in >> heavier air you could easily increase that to 5:1 if the fiddle block on >> your boom had a becket like this one: >> >> >> >> >> http://ca.binnacle.com/p4288/HARKEN-FIDDLE-BLOCK-W/BECKET/product_info.html >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of * >> Curtis >> *Sent:* January 4, 2014 1:15 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List single handing >> >> >> >> My finger has the wind predominantly out of the south or off the stern. >> but sometime it blows me into the dock. I also have the pleasure of the South >> Carolina ripping tides of from 7 to 9 feet per cycle. So first of all I >> have learned to pick my battles. If it is to harsh I tie up at the face >> dock til the lull tide. If I have an outgoing tide I can do it up to mid >> tide if there is no wind to deal with. I can manage to crab it in the birth >> with the current off the nose. I keep a 8 foot ling over the rear winch and >> a bow line and a amidship spring line. I get the nose in and I got it. I do >> ask for help if its a harsh day. Otherwize I have no trouble. It is worth >> just picking a day for a short in and out of the slip practice. Maybe I >> plan an afternoon day sail but get there way early prep the boat and ease >> her out and swing in" calibrate the wind vane or the electronic compass. >> then birth her and wate for the guest to show and take her out again. >> Practice, Practice,Practice. I'm new to all of this but learning fast. >> >> Thanks to all you guys and your help I may not bounce off any of the guys >> boats in the marina. >> >> >> >> Cheers. Curt >> >> >> >> >> http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s31/LTGoshen/New%20Bimini%20Nov%202013/20131031_180302_zpsb64aa2f6.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> Agree about dockside help. Many times a powerboater not used to pointy >> boats, will pull my sailboat's bowline too tight to the finger. Last year, >> A 20 year veteran boatyard worker helped me to tie up. I had all my lines >> coiled at the gate and was motoring in neutral into a slip with a slight >> headwind, keeping steerageway and planning to give her a slight burst of >> reverse after I got inside the outer pilings. I asked the guy to take the >> bowline as it came in reach and before I knew it he tied it tight to a >> cleat midway on the float, and before I could do anything the bow was >> pulled to the side and the hull pulled into the finger. I jumped onto the >> float and stopped the boat but not before the hull ahead of my fenders was >> gouged by a sharp edge of a plank. I asked why he didn't allow the boat >> to fully enter the slip and why tie to the wrong cleat? He said wasn't >> aware of my ability and he didn't think I could stop the boat and he was >> used to 70 foot Viking Yachts that have so much power they can destroy the >> dock. He meant well. We're still friends, but now I only hand out a >> midship line when people want to help. If they pull on that too hard, the >> fenders will protect the hull. >> >> >> >> Chuck >> *Resolute* >> 1990 C&C 34R >> Atlantic City, NJ >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Bill Bina" <billb...@sbcglobal.net> >> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Sent: *Friday, January 3, 2014 8:10:13 PM >> >> >> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List single handing >> >> I actually don't like strangers assisting me in docking. We haven't >> rehearsed together, and that makes for surprises that I can do without. >> The other tip, is that although you don't want to come in too fast, most >> botched dockings I see are caused by going so slow that steerage and >> lift on the keel becomes weak or lacking. When entering my slip, I'm >> traveling downstream, usually with a crosswind. I have to move faster >> than the river to maintain control. Knowing what stage of tide is >> critical, as just before low tide, is the fastest current of all. That >> also means my boat goes sideways faster as I make the turn across the >> current to enter the fairway. So I need to compensate for that as well. >> If the tide is rising, current is slower and docking is considerably >> easier for me. Practice is more than just repetition. You have to >> observe details and remember them. >> >> Bill Bina >> >> On 1/3/2014 11:42 AM, Curtis wrote: >> > Being a good single handler doesn’t mean you can’t ask for help. It’s >> > not that you have to do it all yourself at the dock. Plenty of people >> > at my dock, and always willing to grab a line. Asking for help in a >> > tight means you are being smart. The more I do it the better I get at >> > doing it. I also think of all sorts of thing that help me aide the >> > process. Like running the anchor chain and rode in a loop from the bow >> > to the stern with a pin release to let me drop anchor. Makes it real >> > nice and simple and safe to boot. >> > Keep us posted on the progress. >> > Cheers, LT >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> “Sailors, with their built in sense of order, service and discipline, >> should really be running the world.” - Nicholas Monsarrat >> ------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6472 - Release Date: 01/03/14 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > > -- > “Sailors, with their built in sense of order, service and discipline, > should really be running the world.” - Nicholas Monsarrat > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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