I believe possible solutions are endless. 
Wire is the benchmark, least stretch, but eventualy fish hooks. 
Amsteel is amazing. It's strong as steel but flexible. The area around cutches 
can be improved by adding a cover. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ & Melody" <russ...@telus.net> 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:10:49 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List wire halyards 


If this is confession time.. I have very old wire&rope jib halyards. They are 
so old that the rope is 3-strand. In my defence the wire goes thrice around the 
winch so the rope doesn't see any real loading. 

On Amazing Grace , a custom 45, we changed back to wire&rope after too many 
cover failures due to slippage in the clutch and the load transferring to the 
cover. It was cheaper than going to new clutches :) 

Cheers, Russ 
Sweet 35 mk-1 



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Calypso still has its wire reel main halyard winch. I recently purchased a 
donor winch for parts to replace one of the low speed gears. I�m even thinking 
of having the casing re-chromed to spruce it up. 

Much of the fear and loathing associated with the wire reel winches comes from 
safely handling high halyard loads. We reduced the loads significantly by 
installing a Harken Batt Car system. Raising, lowering and reefing the main are 
all more easily accomplished with the lower halyard loads. 

We also kept the wire to rope headsail halyards owing to the wires tolerance to 
long exposure of heavy #1 type loads. I figure saving a few pounds of weight 
67� off the deck has a minimal effect on a 24,000 lb. boat compared to the risk 
of an un-timely halyard failure while sailing shorthanded. 

Martin 
Calypso 
1971 C&C 43 
Seattle 
From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Jimmy 
Kelly 
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:20 PM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List wire halyards 

dwight is right on the mark re wire halyards sounds like his boat was set up 
correctly probably by c&c custom rigger in oakville plant...many c&c 35 mk1s 
out on west coast still using wire reel main halyard winches...especially the 
ones winning many races...i do not recommend them but certainly do the 
job...however wire still appears to do the job.best 
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