Harold,

The issue, IMHO, is the low-point scoring system and I would suggest moving to 
high point or cox-sprague. 

With high point, a boat who beat more boats would get a higher score -- then 
the boat with the highest score overall will win the overall award. Again, this 
may not be the fastest boat but it will be the boat who performed best against 
the most competition.  

The question is does a boat that participates in a race beat one that doesn't 
start at all? Many different points of view on this, and I don't want to start 
a flame in this email thread. 

Cox-Sprague is a weighted high-scoring percentage of perfection system, which 
many believe to be the utmost in fairness, but the system is confusing for 
participants who are not aware of how it works. 

You could do division scoring by low point and then fleet scoring by time using 
low point. The problem there, which is most often the problem, is PHRF. The 
corrected time is not meant to work on spreads or 30 points. 

Anyway, I have over 20 years of race management experience and would always be 
happy to discuss the pros and cons of each system anytime.


All the best,

Edd

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Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
www.StarshipSailing.com
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NCC-1701-B 
C&C 37+
City Island, NY (presently in Laguna Beach, CA)
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On Nov 9, 2013, at 11:05 AM, "patricia barkley-higginbottom" 
<patrici...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Would like to ask the list about scoring. In a fleet the winner of a series 
> is the low point boat based on corrected times for each race. We have three 
> fleets who compete for an overall trophy. The winner has been determined by 
> the lowest overall time for the race series. Each fleet sails the same 
> course, but using three different start times. This year an anomaly occurred 
> in that the low point boat of the three fleets, which usually equates to the 
> lowest overall time, did not win, and indeed a boat that did not win its 
> fleet, coming second, won overall because it had a shorter accumulated time.
> To rationalize it I have been told that this is like a boat beats another in 
> each of ten races by 5 seconds. For the next two races the previously second 
> place boat wins each by 5 minutes. On overall time he is now the overall 
> winner.
> Is this not bizarre.
> Comments would be welcome, particularly from persons knowing how other clubs 
> deal with similar situations.
> C&C 35-3
> Celtic Spirit
> Hamilton, ON
> Harold.
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