That's hillarious! 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin DeYoung" <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 1:03:36 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odours - Now pissing safely 




In 1994 I was hired as the navigator (I met the insurance companies requirement 
for holding a USGC license and owning a sextant) to help deliver a Swan 65 
ketch to Southern California. The RBO (rich boat owner) insisted we make the 
trip the last week of November as it fit in with his CEO style schedule. He had 
several professional weather forecasts in hand showing the late season 
conditions would be in the 30 knot range. 



Off the Washington coast we got “bombed” by several lows that combined to put 
out steady 60 knots with gusts into the 70s. When the RBO had enough of 
adventure sailing and damage to his recently painted Swan he requested we “take 
him back to shore”. It took 18 to 20 hours under bare poles to get back to Neah 
Bay were even at anchor in the small sheltered bay we had steady 45 knots but 
no seas so the anchor held well. The next morning the RBO and his party 
chartered a sea plane to pick them up leaving us “gypsies of the palace” 24 
hours to get the Swan back to Seattle for repairs and regrouping. 



Here is the pissing safely part: In the middle of the maelstrom I needed to 
pee. Down below was out of the question. I clipped into the leeward mizzen 
shrouds. Fortunately Musto’s foulweather gear designers consider such 
conditions. As I “let fly” I was astonished to observe the pee stream went 
straight up before disappearing to leeward into the dark and stormy night. My 
body created a negative pressure area (powered by the 60 knots of wind) strong 
enough to lift the stream. That was the first and only time I have observed 
that phenomenon. 



Martin 

Calypso 

1971 C&C 43 

Seattle 



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe 
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:31 AM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odours - Now pissing safely 



Offshore in bad weather I would wrap my arms around the leeward shrouds. Here 
is a photo that made a national magazine of someone peeing off of our stern < 
http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/gor/gor3.jpg > LOL. 




Joe Della Barba 





From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Steve 
Thomas 
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 12:19 PM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odours - Now pissing safely 




If you kneel as I described, it is not more dangerous than simply being in the 
cockpit. 


No need to undo your tether either. 


Might not work on your boat but it does on many if not most. 


If you would rather use the head that is your choice, but it is not the only 
safe choice. 





I am very safety conscious and wear an inflatable harness as a rule rather than 
the exception. No one ever plans to fall overboard, and most drownings occur in 
calm weather. I am the first and often the only one to clip on the tether. Mine 
is often the only boat in the fleet where people are wearing life jackets. It 
is like doing up the seat belt in you car as far as I am concerned. Just do it. 
One area I need to improve on is in the rigging of jack lines. Don't do it 
often enough. I nearly drowned when I was a kid and it was an experience that I 
have no interest in repeating. 





On the other hand I used to work with a guy that got hit by lightning while at 
home in his basement. 


There is no such a thing as perfectly safe, but we can adjust the 
probabilities. 


No one gets out alive. 





Steve Thomas 


C&C27 MKIII 



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