A bucket and/or jug qualifies as a MSD. Direct and natural release is likely 
the only legal option.

Ed
C&C 34 Briar Patch
New Orleans, LA.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack Brennan
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:22 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odours

Nothing is better than a bucket with a little seawater in it.

Private, a wave won't knock your aim off (onto your shoes) and no chance of 
falling overboard. With a little discretion, it can be used in a crowded area 
without the risk of being branded a flasher.

Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.

From: Stevan Plavsa<mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:57 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odours

I hook an arm around the lee shrouds. This provides some privacy from the crew 
in the cockpit as well as some privacy from other boats as I'm covered by the 
155%. Essentially, one is peeing in the slot.

This is a great mailing list.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Rich Knowles 
<r...@sailpower.ca<mailto:r...@sailpower.ca>> wrote:
You only make the stats once.

Rich

On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:38, Steve Thomas 
<sthom...@sympatico.ca<mailto:sthom...@sympatico.ca>> wrote:
Everybody I know (male) pisses over the side, weather and audience conditions 
permitting.

As for falling overboard, on my boat and most of similar size and construction 
you can kneel in the cockpit on the leeward side and lean against the stern 
rail. No danger of falling out, and with even a small amount of heel there is 
no need to piss on the side of the boat. I seldom bother with cockpit cushions, 
especially when under way, so I bought a rubber kneeling pad from Princess Auto 
to make it a bit easier on the knees. Should have tied a line to it. Have to 
get another one now.

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Rich Knowles
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:57 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odors
Probably:) Drowning stats are against you too.

Rich

On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:21, "Pete Shelquist" 
<pete.shelqu...@comcast.net<mailto:pete.shelqu...@comcast.net>> wrote:
"Average person uses toilet 5 times a day"... is my boat the only one with guys 
peeing over the side?
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
djhaug...@juno.com<mailto:djhaug...@juno.com>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odors
Okay,
I spoke to Peggie Hall last night and she asked; "Do you have anything against 
black hoses?"  I said, "Not really."  She said "oh good! use the trident 101 
hoses.  I don't know of a single case where they have ever had a permeation 
issue."
I guess I'm going to have black hoses...I guess I could paint them if the 
admiral has an issue with them...
She also suggested a 24 gallon tank at least.  She said, on average, a manual 
toilet uses .6 gal/flush and the average person uses the toilet at leas 5 times 
per day. So, at a minimum your putting 3 gal/day/person in the the tank.  For 2 
people you get 6 gal/day so that tank will not even last 4 days because you 
don't want to be filling it to capacity.
So, we (she) decided the v-birth would be the best location for the new tank.  
I'll be heading down to the boat with the Ronco catalog in hand to figure out 
what the biggest tank I can fit under the v-birth.
All in all, it will be a very simple system.  Manual toilet (she said the 
Raritan PHC would have been here recommendation) to a Y valve diverting the 
waste either directly overboard or into the tank.  A 1" vent, as far forward as 
I can get it.  A pump out and potentially, a seperate fitting on the tank for a 
manual overboard tank drain with a manual pump.
The project moves on.
Danny
Lolita
1973 Viking 33
Westport Point, MA

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