True, but if you kneel as I described, then you are in no more danger than you 
are when in the cockpit for any other reason.  

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Rich Knowles
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:47 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odours


You only make the stats once. 

Rich

On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:38, Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca> wrote:


  Everybody I know (male) pisses over the side, weather and audience conditions 
permitting. 

  As for falling overboard, on my boat and most of similar size and 
construction you can kneel in the cockpit on the leeward side and lean against 
the stern rail. No danger of falling out, and with even a small amount of heel 
there is no need to piss on the side of the boat. I seldom bother with cockpit 
cushions, especially when under way, so I bought a rubber kneeling pad from 
Princess Auto to make it a bit easier on the knees. Should have tied a line to 
it. Have to get another one now. 

  Steve Thomas
  C&C27 MKIII

  -----Original Message-----
  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Rich Knowles
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:57 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odors


  Probably:) Drowning stats are against you too. 

  Rich

  On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:21, "Pete Shelquist" <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net> 
wrote:


    “Average person uses toilet 5 times a day”… is my boat the only one with 
guys peeing over the side?


    From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
djhaug...@juno.com
    Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:19 AM
    To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
    Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odors


    Okay,


    I spoke to Peggie Hall last night and she asked; "Do you have anything 
against black hoses?"  I said, "Not really."  She said "oh good! use the 
trident 101 hoses.  I don't know of a single case where they have ever had a 
permeation issue."


    I guess I'm going to have black hoses...I guess I could paint them if the 
admiral has an issue with them...


    She also suggested a 24 gallon tank at least.  She said, on average, a 
manual toilet uses .6 gal/flush and the average person uses the toilet at leas 
5 times per day. So, at a minimum your putting 3 gal/day/person in the the 
tank.  For 2 people you get 6 gal/day so that tank will not even last 4 days 
because you don't want to be filling it to capacity.


    So, we (she) decided the v-birth would be the best location for the new 
tank.  I'll be heading down to the boat with the Ronco catalog in hand to 
figure out what the biggest tank I can fit under the v-birth.


    All in all, it will be a very simple system.  Manual toilet (she said the 
Raritan PHC would have been here recommendation) to a Y valve diverting the 
waste either directly overboard or into the tank.  A 1" vent, as far forward as 
I can get it.  A pump out and potentially, a seperate fitting on the tank for a 
manual overboard tank drain with a manual pump.


    The project moves on.


    Danny

    Lolita

    1973 Viking 33

    Westport Point, MA





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