Mark: Your reservations about making an open water passage on a new to you boat are justified. Deliveries can be an adventure and then more of an adventure than you wish.
My first delivery was of my C&C 27 Mk 1 from Intracoastal City, La. to New Orleans via the ICW in 1978. The adventure part of the trip was a 5 mile motor down the Mississippi passing the French Quarter. I likely will never get that experience again. A C&C 30 Mk 1 was to replace the 27 taken by Hurricane Katrina. I was aware of the propensity of the mast step to fail. The surveyor, made aware of the potential, was unable to evaluate the step's condition due to the fiberglass floor pan. I took a chance and bought the boat. This delivery was from Carrabelle, FL to New Orleans. Quite a few people asked if I planned to sail offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. I was firm about taking the ICW. I bought full towing coverage from Boat US. Due to a strong May cool front, we motored 3 1/2 days to reach Mobile Bay. There for the first time we were able to set sail. It was great for the 1st 30 minutes until the mast step failed. A rolling 4 hour motor up Mobile Bay with a fully loose rig was not settling. Actual repairs took about 2 months and cost about $1,200 for labor and material, not including slip rental and unstepping/re-stepping the mast. Looking back, I consider the failure in Mobile Bay to be good fortune. Had I gotten further west, boatyards were still in a recovery mode from Katrina and repairs uncertain. Lessons: Being present for the survey, I believe that the surveyor was honest in advising me he could not give an opinion on the mast step. The best survey should be taken with a grain of salt. Take as long a pre-purchase sea trial as you can to see what shows up. I didn't. Cary spare parts. Plan out alternate places you can put in if trouble develops. Weigh being stuck on the side of the road vs. some failure in open water. Good luck with whatever boat you buy. Ed C&C 30 Dream Girl (For Sale) C&C 34 Briar Patch New Orleans, La. -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat Does anyone know the total height of a C&C29 mk2? I just guessed at 11 ft for the purpose of getting bids - I figure pretty close - 5'3" draft and 6 ft interior headroom (starting ~12" below water level) then extra for bow and stern pulpit. As for the shipping comments - I need to sort out the best solution. Sailing it back would be fun - but maybe not functional for my time frame. I agree, if the boat is not in shape it's better to walk away - but I'm nervous about doing my first open water transit in a new (to me) boat. I'm looking at the prices - and I'll have to think hard about the challenges of towing ourselves. The truck is brand new with a towing package. The trailer is a heavy duty trailer, used to carry mini-excavators. I figure we'll total about 9000lbs. BTW - I've gotten a comment about the mast step being an expensive repair - is this a common problem with the 29's? Mark --------------------- Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) Bedford Chiropractic www.bedfordchiro.ca --------------------- There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 11/09/2013 11:02 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote: > Mark > > Marine Cradle Shop in Oakville can make you a cradle that will fit. > Plan on approx $1300 You are going to need one anyway. > > I trucked my J27 home on a cradle mounted on flatbed trailer. I draws > 4.9 feet but has lower freeboard than C&C29. Find out the height from > top of cabin/stanhions to bottom of keel and add that to trailer deck > height. Plan on flatbed trailer weighing approx 2000 lbs and add that > to boat disp to ensure you are well under tow capacity of the truck. > Take all registration papers for trailer with you as customs is far > more touchy about the trailer coming to canada than they are about a > boat > > Have fun. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. > Mark Bodnar > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:39 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List New Boat > > > Ok. So I'm throwing caution into the wind, at least a bit. > > I have an accepted offer on the C&C29 Mk2 in Maine that I mentioned to > the list a while back. > http://maine.craigslist.org/boa/4001084479.html > For $8000. > > Having looked a several boats locally (2 C&C29's I quite liked but > neither would settle for less than $20K, plus a few other boats), and > given the various options avail I decided that this was my best option. > > I think I would have liked to get the CS30, but doubtful they would > have > > dropped the price to where I would have wanted it. > > Little risky making an offer on an unseen boat. I feel like I almost > can't go wrong for $8000. Thank's to Bill for trying to get out to > see it. The seller has been good about giving me info on the boat, > and as best I can tell (emails and a phone conversation) seems honest > -- I may regret that assumption, but the offer is contingent on a > survey - so if there are any major issues then I'll likely just walk > away. I likely wouldn't bother with a survey if I was able to see it > personally, but I think it's prudent in this case, and will also give > me a heads up on issues I need to address once I have the boat in my > possession. > > Now the logistics. Bill Burketts suggested a surveyor in the area > (not sure how close) - Gene Barnes. Anyone have any other suggestions? > > Plus the issue of getting the boat home. I've posted a listing on > uShip, but we are thinking about just going and hauling it back. I > have access to a truck that can haul 10-11000lbs, and access to a > trailer that can hold 14000lbs (I need to confirm that these will work > together!) > The boat is currently on jack stands. I'm thinking either I buy or > borrow a local cradle. > Does anyone have measurements on the proper cradle base size and pad > spacing for a 29 II? > There is a steel cradle for sale not far away > http://moncton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-other-Steel- > Sa > ilboat-Cradle-for-Sale-W0QQAdIdZ509847290 > I'm trying to figure out if it will fit the boat properly - seems > short to me. > > For that matter - anyone near Halifax have a sailboat trailer that > would > > fit a C&C 29? Or know of any at their club that might be avail for rent? > > Or a cradle I could rent? > > Mark > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
