Btw - my comment on the Murray Canal to Cobourg trip is just one of many anecdotes about that route. Anyone who's done much Lake Ontario sailing will have a similar story about that leg.
On 7/25/13, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> wrote: > "Tack the baby", nice. Boy am I glad I asked, that was some really helpful > feedback thank you! > > Thanks all so much for all the helpful advise, this is really the greatest > mailing list of all time. > > Allan, if we make a stop out your way I'll be sure to call on you. I'm sure > it won't be difficult to spot the C&C :) > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Colin Kilgour > <charliekilo...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I've done the trip from TO to the 1000 Islands a bunch of times and >> anchored a lot there. >> >> Get down to the islands as quickly as you can. Why spend time in Whitby >> or the Bluffs when you can easily go to those places for a weekend >> cruise? >> >> Most folks stop at Cobourg along the way. If you leave early in the >> morning you can get there from TS&CC same day - in daylight. >> >> Cobourg's a good place to try anchoring for the first time (inside the >> breakwater). Few boats anchor there (as most take a dock). There's a >> lot >> of space. And it's sheltered. When you get to the islands, space will be >> much tighter. >> >> If you're a little more adventurous, skip Cobourg and go straight through >> to Main Duck Island, but that will be an overnight sail. Make sure the >> weather's good though, because there are no good harbours on the south >> side >> of Prince Edward County. You also need to watch out for Scotch Bonnet >> Island (which, btw, is the only fixed navigational hazard between Toronto >> and the Bay of Quinte) >> >> Instead, you'll probably go through the Murray Canal. Presqui'le Bay (on >> the way into the canal) is shallow. Make sure you honour the buoys and >> don't cut the corner. Have money ready for the bridge operator (I'm not >> sure what the current toll is) >> >> When you get into the Bay of Quinte - honour the buoys there too. >> >> Once you're past Trenton - navigation is straightforward until Belleville >> - honour those buoys as well. >> >> Then it's Telegraph Narrows - I haven't been through there in a while, >> but >> I drove over the bridge about a month ago and couldn't see the channel >> markers from the road (maybe they're gone?). Anyway, watch your depth >> there and follow the chart and then you're good until Kingston. >> >> Prinyer's Cove (in Aldophus Reach) is a really pretty anchorage, but it's >> weedy. >> >> Lots of people stop in Kingston. I wouldn't. Again, why stop in a big >> stinkpot-infested marina beside a maximum security jail when you could be >> at anchor in the islands? Instead, stop at Cedar Island or Milton Island >> which are part of the National Park and are just past town. You can grab >> a >> dock there or anchor if conditions are good. (Check the forecast before >> turning in) >> >> When you get to the islands, there are lots of choices: Beaurivage is a >> good first stop. Then explore from there using your PORTS guide. >> >> --- >> On anchoring technique... note that it's MUDDY in all these places. Set >> your anchor somewhat lightly (ie: back down, but not super hard) then >> have >> a swim and a beer or two. Give your anchor and chain some time to settle >> into the mud. Then back down hard to make sure it's good and set. If >> you >> back down hard right away, you're just going to drag your anchor through >> the anchorage. >> >> -- >> On the way back, the sail from the Murray Canal to Cobourg can REALLY >> suck. It's often an upwind sail and sea conditions can be uncomfortable. >> When you get into the Bay of Quinte on the way back, look at the weather >> forecast... If you see a decent window (ie: no west wind), go for it and >> make a run all the way to Cobourg. (Note the bridge operating hours >> though, because you don't want to get trapped overnight in the canal. >> Too >> many mosquitos) Alternately, you could go back along the outside, >> stopping >> at Waupoos and/or Main Duck before making a run all the way to Cobourg >> (or >> home!) >> >> Here's why I say this.... 14 Years ago, when my eldest was just 1 and we >> were in a CS27, we had to beat all the way to Cobourg in 20kn west winds >> and 6 foot chop with my son in his Graco "pack and play" down below. All >> he could do was lie on his back and endure the pounding as as we made a >> VMG >> of about 1.4 knots. Every time we tacked, one of us (my wife) had to go >> below and tack the baby! (I still don't think he's forgiven us) >> >> Have a great trip! >> >> Cheers, >> Colin >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Woody Hamel <woodyha...@live.ca> wrote: >> >>> Hi Steven, >>> Your not alone, and I think it's fair to say there are no bad questions. >>> Frenchman's bay marina where I am has transient docking, and 2 nice >>> restaurants close to the docks. If your here I would be happy to come >>> down >>> and say hi. Whitby is a nice harbour as well. Port of newcastle was a >>> nice >>> overnight they have a restaurant as well. It was shallow entry 2 years >>> ago, >>> we were ok in our 26 but I did watch a 30 plus get stuck, and manage to >>> free herself. That said the water is higher this year. >>> As a field biologist working coastal wetlands Belleville area should >>> have >>> some safe anchorages. Prince edward county is amazing, and there should >>> be >>> some safe anchorages in the area, picton is a really nice town with >>> docking >>> at its door step. Kingston is also a great city! Wolf island should also >>> have some safe anchorages, but does not have a lot going on in the way >>> of >>> restaurants etc. >>> Your trip sounds great! Have a great day everyone! >>> Cheers, >>> Woody >>> C&C 26 - Goldfinch >>> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. >>> Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de >>> Bell. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:10:36 >>> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toronto to the Thousand Islands >>> >>> >>> You know, I always hesitate when asking really newbish/stupid questions >>> (anywhere, not just here) but I'm usually happy that I have. Some things >>> aren't obvious and even more experienced people don't know, because >>> _they_ >>> never asked. It's better to be underestimated than undereducated. The >>> former usually works out to one's advantage anyway. >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the continued replies and advice. >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> Suhana, C&C 32 >>> Toronto >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Andrew Burton < >>> a.burton.sai...@gmail.com <mailto:a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The operative phrase being "after you've set the anchor." Don't back >>> down >>> hard until it's dug in a bit. I often see people drop their hook then >>> rev >>> the engine in reverse and back through the anchorage dragging the anchor >>> along the bottom. >>> Andy >>> C&C 40 >>> Peregrine >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com <mailto: >>> capt...@yahoo.com> > wrote: >>> Stevan, >>> >>> The most common mistake novice anchorers make is to not include the >>> height of the bow in the calculation of scope. For instance if it is 3 >>> feet >>> from the water to your bow chock and you are anchoring in 20 feet of >>> water, >>> multiply your desired scope by 20 + 3. So if you want 5:1 scope, it >>> would >>> be 5 x 23 or 115 feet at the bow chock. >>> >>> Once you've set the hook, back down HARD and watch an object in the >>> water to see if you are dragging. >>> >>> If your GPS has an anchor alarm (most do), set it and relax. >>> >>> Dennis C. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Stevan Plavsa >>> <stevanpla...@gmail.com<mailto: >>> stevanpla...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> >>> > Hi All, >>> > >>> > This will be my first real cruise and I was hoping for some pointers >>> from other Lake Ontario sailors. I'm looking for tips on places to >>> anchor >>> along the way and clubs to stay at, places to avoid, things to be aware >>> of. >>> We've only done overnights at other clubs thus far. We do have the ports >>> cruising guide. >>> > >>> > A friend just loaned me a set of paper charts that will cover the >>> entire cruise for which I'm very grateful (lots of charts! $$$) but they >>> are out of date, not sure how much of a big deal that is, he didn't seem >>> to >>> think it was a big deal at all. >>> > >>> > We have two anchors, a big CQR and a smaller delta, 50 feet of chain >>> and another 150 of rode. Haven't ever spent a night on the hook either >>> so >>> any gotchas on that topic would be handy as well. I have a few books >>> that >>> I've studied so I understand these things in principle .. no better way >>> to >>> learn than by doing so we're going for it. August 10 to 26 is the time >>> we >>> have booked off which means that we're starting this thing during the >>> Perseid Meteor shower .. I really want to do on an overnight passage >>> with >>> my girlfriend, say from Toronto to Cobourg or something like that so >>> that >>> we can enjoy the meteor shower out on the lake. I'm a sucker for that >>> annual meteor shower and haven't gotten to enjoy it in years. I know >>> enough >>> to avoid the shipping lanes other than that an overnight on the lake >>> seems >>> pretty straightforward. >>> > >>> > Any thoughts and recommendations are much welcome. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Steve >>> > Suhana, C&C 32 >>> > Toronto >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> > CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andrew Burton >>> 61 W Narragansett Ave >>> Newport, RI >>> USA 02840 >>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >>> phone +401 965 5260 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > -- Sent from my mobile device _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
