Steve -- I'm pretty sure I have one of the bronze retractable speed/temp 
transducers at home, still new in the box.  If so, I could ship it to you; that 
might help you get it quicker.  Just replace it when you've got another one in, 
or send me the $$$ and I can replace it.  I hope this helps. 


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On May 9, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I installed an ST40 thru-hull in my bow where the old knot-meter thru-hull 
> used to be. Same size hole and all. Backing block was completely dry and rot 
> free so I left it alone and didn't replace it. I used 4200 to seal the thing 
> in there. Now, the hole is located at the 'vee' of the hull and the 
> instructions say "hand tighten only". Well, I hand tightened alright, but 
> like .. hand TIGHTENED. Apparently I'm a lot stronger than whoever wrote the 
> instructions ... I'll get to that later.
> 
> As soon as the boat was floating I went in and had a look at all of the 
> thru-hulls .. all but one, of course, the new knot meter! I had also replaced 
> a thru-hull for the galley drain located just behind the companionway steps 
> this winter and last year I replaced three others. No problems with any of 
> those. 
> 
> I'm blaming a stressful launch for my failure to check on that thru-hull. 
> Anyway, it was leaking. We only discovered while underway half way back to 
> the club. I didn't want to go back because I swore I'de never go back there 
> after my experience with haul-out and launch this year, it's a terrible 
> place. I figured if I have to haul the boat I'll do it somewhere else and 
> there are other places. The leak wasn't sinking the boat or anything but I 
> noticed something odd .. a previous owner had glassed over the limber hole 
> from the bow section to the bilge. So, the bilge pump wasn't going and the 
> bilge water wasn't rising so that's another reason I didn't notice. I'm on a 
> mooring so I took the boat to the shared dock to survey the situation. The 
> leak was pretty bad. The bow had about a foot of water in it after 45 minutes 
> in the water, not good. 
> 
> I bailed all the water out to observe the leak and it was surely coming from 
> the housing, NOT from between the hull and thru-hull fitting .. rather, from 
> between the thru-hull fitting (housing) and transducer. Ok I thought, it's 
> either the housing or the ducer .. I put in the blank, same leak. Ok, so it's 
> the housing, WTF. 
> 
> I messed with it until I got the leak slowed down to a trickle and left it 
> alone. Yes both o-rings were present on both the transducer and blank plug, I 
> had also lubed them with the provided silicon lubricant. This housing keep in 
> mind, is the newer design with the flapper valve, whole thing is plastic. I 
> drove back to check on it again later that evening and the water ingress 
> wasn't too bad. I bailed the half bucket of water out and called it a night.
> 
> The next morning I took the day off work and started making calls to local 
> marinas pricing out a haul out and calling the chandleries to find a 
> replacement thru-hull. No one had what I needed in stock and everyone was 
> busy with launch, they could make time for me, but it was going to be 
> expensive! I weighed my options and decided to try the cheapest, lowest risk 
> option first .. bigger o-rings. This was recommended to me by an employee at 
> one of the chandleries and he pretty much saved the day. I happened to have 
> the EXACT o-ring on board! One of them anyway, the larger upper one .. I had 
> purchased a pack of replacement o-rings for the fuel fill, there were three 
> o-rings in the package so I had two left, just enough for both the plug and 
> ducer!
> 
> This slowed the ingress down to a trickle, barely noticable. After 45 minutes 
> there was maybe two tablespoons of water in the bow. Ok, now we're making 
> progress. I went to home depot and bought a pack of assorted o-rings but none 
> of them were the right diameter or thickness ... I also purchased yellow 
> plumbers tape. I put a few wraps around the ducer UNDER where the lower 
> o-ring is located and slipped the o-ring over the layers of plumbers tape. 
> LEAK STOPPED. Just about anyway, if I 'jiggle' the transducer I can get it to 
> leak but if i leave it alone the area remains dry.
> 
> My theory is that I overtightened the thru-hull fitting causing it to deform 
> due to it's location on the curved part of the hull. The hole is flat mind 
> you and the flange fits in just fine but I don't know .. that's my theory. I 
> know that these plastic thru-hulls are prone to cracking when 
> over-tightened... I don't think mine is cracked because the larger o-rings 
> have stopped the leak.
> 
> So finally my questions:
> 
> 1. is my thinking ok? Is it possible that the housing IS in fact cracked? I 
> can't see any cracks.
> 2. how critical is a boat haul? If the housing isn't cracked what are the 
> chances that it COULD crack while in some chop or something? I imagine the 
> hull is pretty rigid up there at the vee of the bow, it's thick and not a 
> large unsupported area. 
> 
> My gut tells me to haul the boat and replace the thru-hull with raymarine's 
> bronze version but thats' going to be a very expensive exercise. The original 
> knot meter fitting was plastic as well and that lasted 32 years.
> 
> Thanks all.
> 
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
> 
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