Steve,

 

You could try backing off the housing nut a very small amount to get rid of
any slight deformation and see if the leak stops.

A silly question but you said that you said that you could "jiggle" the
transducer and make it leak.

I don't think the transducer should be able to wiggle in the housing, are
you tightening the "cap nut" to lock the transducer into the housing?

You mention tightening the nut for the housing but not the transducer cap
nut.

I sent the ST-40 Instrument Service manual to you direct, have a look at the
cutaway for a better indication of how it seals.

 

Cheers

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan
Plavsa
Sent: May-09-13 12:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Raymarine plastic thru hulls - had a leak

 

I installed an ST40 thru-hull in my bow where the old knot-meter thru-hull
used to be. Same size hole and all. Backing block was completely dry and rot
free so I left it alone and didn't replace it. I used 4200 to seal the thing
in there. Now, the hole is located at the 'vee' of the hull and the
instructions say "hand tighten only". Well, I hand tightened alright, but
like .. hand TIGHTENED. Apparently I'm a lot stronger than whoever wrote the
instructions ... I'll get to that later.

 

As soon as the boat was floating I went in and had a look at all of the
thru-hulls .. all but one, of course, the new knot meter! I had also
replaced a thru-hull for the galley drain located just behind the
companionway steps this winter and last year I replaced three others. No
problems with any of those. 

 

I'm blaming a stressful launch for my failure to check on that thru-hull.
Anyway, it was leaking. We only discovered while underway half way back to
the club. I didn't want to go back because I swore I'de never go back there
after my experience with haul-out and launch this year, it's a terrible
place. I figured if I have to haul the boat I'll do it somewhere else and
there are other places. The leak wasn't sinking the boat or anything but I
noticed something odd .. a previous owner had glassed over the limber hole
from the bow section to the bilge. So, the bilge pump wasn't going and the
bilge water wasn't rising so that's another reason I didn't notice. I'm on a
mooring so I took the boat to the shared dock to survey the situation. The
leak was pretty bad. The bow had about a foot of water in it after 45
minutes in the water, not good. 

 

I bailed all the water out to observe the leak and it was surely coming from
the housing, NOT from between the hull and thru-hull fitting .. rather, from
between the thru-hull fitting (housing) and transducer. Ok I thought, it's
either the housing or the ducer .. I put in the blank, same leak. Ok, so
it's the housing, WTF. 

 

I messed with it until I got the leak slowed down to a trickle and left it
alone. Yes both o-rings were present on both the transducer and blank plug,
I had also lubed them with the provided silicon lubricant. This housing keep
in mind, is the newer design with the flapper valve, whole thing is plastic.
I drove back to check on it again later that evening and the water ingress
wasn't too bad. I bailed the half bucket of water out and called it a night.

 

The next morning I took the day off work and started making calls to local
marinas pricing out a haul out and calling the chandleries to find a
replacement thru-hull. No one had what I needed in stock and everyone was
busy with launch, they could make time for me, but it was going to be
expensive! I weighed my options and decided to try the cheapest, lowest risk
option first .. bigger o-rings. This was recommended to me by an employee at
one of the chandleries and he pretty much saved the day. I happened to have
the EXACT o-ring on board! One of them anyway, the larger upper one .. I had
purchased a pack of replacement o-rings for the fuel fill, there were three
o-rings in the package so I had two left, just enough for both the plug and
ducer!

 

This slowed the ingress down to a trickle, barely noticable. After 45
minutes there was maybe two tablespoons of water in the bow. Ok, now we're
making progress. I went to home depot and bought a pack of assorted o-rings
but none of them were the right diameter or thickness ... I also purchased
yellow plumbers tape. I put a few wraps around the ducer UNDER where the
lower o-ring is located and slipped the o-ring over the layers of plumbers
tape. LEAK STOPPED. Just about anyway, if I 'jiggle' the transducer I can
get it to leak but if i leave it alone the area remains dry.

 

My theory is that I overtightened the thru-hull fitting causing it to deform
due to it's location on the curved part of the hull. The hole is flat mind
you and the flange fits in just fine but I don't know .. that's my theory. I
know that these plastic thru-hulls are prone to cracking when
over-tightened... I don't think mine is cracked because the larger o-rings
have stopped the leak.

 

So finally my questions:

 

1. is my thinking ok? Is it possible that the housing IS in fact cracked? I
can't see any cracks.

2. how critical is a boat haul? If the housing isn't cracked what are the
chances that it COULD crack while in some chop or something? I imagine the
hull is pretty rigid up there at the vee of the bow, it's thick and not a
large unsupported area. 

 

My gut tells me to haul the boat and replace the thru-hull with raymarine's
bronze version but thats' going to be a very expensive exercise. The
original knot meter fitting was plastic as well and that lasted 32 years.

 

Thanks all.

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

 

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