I just read Tom B's post and think that the Blue Seas LED's would work just
as well if not better, and Canadians wouldn't have to do the importer
2-step to get them.


On 21 April 2013 08:27, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, sometimes our boats are more different than you would think. We have
> what I thought was the standard panel setup, which came with little neon
> indicator lights in a flat-top diffuser. Some of them were missing the
> diffuser and a couple were broken, so I replaced the whole works with LED's
> from Paneltronics. They were the cheapest by far and had both 12V and 110V
> LED's available in suitable colours. <
> http://paneltronics.com/PartsComponents.asp?op=Indicator+Lights+SubCategoryAll
> >
>
> http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_1803.jpg
>
> You can see that unless you get the LED's perfectly aligned they will
> appear to be slightly different brightnesses at different viewing angles.
> Because the LED's are slightly small for the holes I bedded them in
> silicone from the back, using the little silver trim rings to stop them
> from pulling through. In this picture the 12V ones have been replaced but
> the 110V lamps are original. USA listers can order them directly from
> Paneltronics but Canucks are supposed to go through the Canadian
> distributor. Forget it, he's a fool. There aren't a lot of businesspeople
> who I will call a "lying idiot" in a response email, he's the first.  Order
> them direct and have them shipped to a friend in the USA who will send them
> on. Thanks to Alan Bergen for that.
>
>
>
> On 20 April 2013 17:33, Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I believe C&C used a couple of variations on panel lighting.
>>
>> Mine has a circuit board on each panel section, the board has a quantity
>> of 8 LEDs mounted to it and resistors to step the voltage down, this board
>> is stuck to the panel with double sided tape and the LEDs poke through
>> holes in the panel (with plastic inserts in the holes).  On mine a couple
>> of LEDs had failed, I have replaced them with LEDs from Radio Shack.  The
>> problem with these is that unless you replace them all you will end up with
>> different light intensities - which is what I have.   Doesn't bug me much,
>> but a bit.
>>
>> There are also LEDs in plastic inserts, with wires attached.  The ones
>> Blue Sea sells are an example of that, but there are a zillion
>> possibilities.  The blue sea ones are smaller diameter inserts than C&C
>> used, so if that is your route you will have to look for a larger diameter
>> LED such as Ken identified.
>>
>> Also note, LEDs do not work at 12 volts, they run at significantly lower
>> voltages - 1.5 to 2 volts often.  So for them to work in this case they
>> have to have built in some sort of resistor to cut the voltage down.  In
>> the case of my panel that is what the resistors on the circuit board are
>> for.  I've seen panels where a resistor is installed to the wire lead off
>> of a panel insert, and covered in shrink tubing.  And some LEDs have it
>> built into them.
>>
>> If you can navigate the filters I would bet you can find the LED you need
>> at Digikey, cheaper than most sources.
>>
>> http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?FV=fff40008%2Cfff80280&vendor=0&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ptm=0&fid=0&quantity=0&PV37=1
>>
>> Graham Collins
>> Secret Plans
>> C&C 35-III #11
>>
>> On 2013-04-20 6:58 PM, Ken Heaton wrote:
>>
>> Have a look at these, they come in two sizes.  I haven't tried them but
>> they look about right.
>>
>>  LED Indicator Lights
>>
>> Use these small LED indicator lights in your custom dash insert for turn
>> signals, high beams,
>>
>>  or power indicators.
>>
>> They are available in two sizes and four colors. 5/32" round LEDs mount
>> in 0.156" hole.
>>
>> 1/4" round LEDs mount in a 0.250" hole. Choose red, green, amber, or blue
>> colors.
>>
>> https://www.detroitspeed.com/productsall/120901-leds.html
>>  Ken H
>>
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