As we ascend to new lows... Rich Knowles Indigo - C&C LF38 Halifax - Nova Scotia
On 2013-04-15, at 2:27, Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net> wrote: > > Is Kentucky Jelly a good choice to help you get it just right? > > Oh my. > > At 09:37 PM 14/04/2013, you wrote: >> Ummm...you just stick the transducer in a jar of Vaseline? I'm not sure how >> this is going to work long-term. And why do you have large amounts of >> Vaseline? >> >> >> On 14 April 2013 11:01, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com > wrote: >> Vaseline works for an inhull transducer. >> >> Joel Aronson >> >> >> On Apr 14, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >>> If going in-hull, you can test your location while in the water by placing >>> a baggie of water between the transducer and the hull. If it works like >>> that, it will work glued down. This does not work if the boat is out of the >>> water. I shouldn't have to say that, but I will because I have had a couple >>> of people do just that. >>> >>> FWIW, the transducer maker, Airmar, recommends epoxy, and specifically >>> warns against silicone. >>> >>> >>> On 13 April 2013 08:20, dwight veinot < dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote: >>> >>> Yes they do…very good point, excellent memory actually. I did not have to >>> be concerned because I have an old 1974 design and the under bottom is >>> solid and thick…I think even a bubble in that, and I know there are some >>> because there was one beside the hole I cut to do the through hull mount, >>> which may have had something to do with why it was not always reliable so >>> you always have to find a spot when there are no voids in the solid lay up >>> too, but at least if it doesn’t work you can move it fairly easily and you >>> don’t leave a gaping hole behind. I got lucky first try >>> >>> >>> >>> Dwight Veinot >>> >>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna >>> >>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS >>> >>> >>> From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ & >>> Melody >>> Sent: April 13, 2013 10:59 AM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List New through hull transducer >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Dwight, >>> >>> Don't these inside hull installations need to be in a solid layup area and >>> not a cored hull area? >>> >>> I seemed to remember that detail being part of past discussions on this >>> subject. >>> >>> Cheers, Russ >>> Sweet 35 mk-1 >>> >>> At 12:55 AM 13/04/2013, you wrote: >>> >>> Based on my experience, I would say if it’s a depth transducer install it >>> on the inside of your hull and either don’t cut a new hole or plug the one >>> you have already. Find a nice spot on the inside, close where you want it >>> located, clean the area with solvent, let it dry and then apply a really >>> generous gob of Dow Corning silicone sealant and submerge the active face >>> of the transducer in it while holding on a slight angle to make sure you >>> don’t trap air bubbles, then press it down hard and hold there for a while. >>> I did it that way based on information I got from this list because my >>> Raymarine depth transducer was not reliable…it has worked flawlessly to >>> over 200 feet (my boat draws about 6) for over 2 years and I have one less >>> hole in the boat…I am happy >>> >>> Dwight Veinot >>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna >>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS >>> >>> From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of >>> jmckay533 >>> Sent: April 12, 2013 10:36 PM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Stus-List New through hull transducer >>> >>> Good evening. I AM HOPING TO INSTALL A NEW THROUGH HULL TRANSDUCER this >>> weekend. What marine sealant would you suggest? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> John on Oxygen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from Samsung tablet >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Brent Driedger <bren...@highspeedcrow.ca > >>> Date: 04-12-2013 6:58 PM (GMT-05:00) >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video >>> >>> I tend to agree Dwight. >>> That's a gripping video and reminds me of a very similar situation I got >>> myself into last year minus the crushed legs. I was being too aggressive, >>> boats touched and although no protest came of it, I was at fault and should >>> have bailed when I was getting squeezed out of the pack before the >>> committee boat. >>> On the deck after the race much discussion was held and I insisted I could >>> not change course for I would have rammed the committee boat but later when >>> the photos came out I realized I had plenty of time to abandon the start >>> and not look like a knob. >>> The point is at speed within lengths of the line and adrenaline is up with >>> a bunch of fast boats a nose blow apart, it's easy to make a decision that >>> you wished you hadn't after the fact and unfortunately the only solution to >>> this is experience. >>> On the plus side the event was educational, provided lively beer talk and >>> no damage was done. >>> >>> Brent >>> 27-5 >>> Lake Winnipeg >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 2013-04-12, at 5:25 PM, dwight veinot < dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Blue was close hauled with lots of power, what looks like an uncoordinated >>> crew and in close quarters. She was give way boat and it looks to me like >>> she was barging the line hell bent to get across inside of what looks like >>> the committee boat, and ahead and to windward of the fleet. If she went >>> up hard she either had to tack away or risk ramming what I think is the >>> committee boat. I can’t tell if the leeward boat had room to fall off >>> safely to avoid collision with blue without making a collision with the >>> boat below her, looks like she was being taken up too. I heard now up now >>> up now up now up so someone on Blue knew they were being taken up but I >>> don’t think the helmsman or the crew acted soon enough or fast enough. The >>> helmsman’s effort to steer up seemed ineffective, not much of a rudder on >>> that boat if you ask me. The mainsail trimmer tensioned for more close >>> hauled course and looks like the jib trimmer did the same…seems like the >>> crew did not know how to sail that boat under those conditions in close >>> quarters…they did not appear to know what to expect from the boat and the >>> crew…if I turned the wheel that aggressively on my 35 I feel certain she >>> would go up, now I have to try that to find out for sure and ruin a >>> perfectly nice beat some day. Haven’t raced in a while… what is in the >>> rule about barging >>> >>> Dwight Veinot >>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna >>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS >>> >>> From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan >>> Bergen >>> Sent: April 12, 2013 6:36 PM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video >>> >>> After the preparatory signal (boats are now racing and must sail by the >>> racing rules) but before the starting signal, the leeward boat can sail all >>> the way up to head to wind. After the starting signal, she cannot sail >>> higher than close hauled. Boats must still avoid contact if at all >>> possible. Crossing the starting line has no effect on how rules 11 and 14 >>> are applied. >>> Alan Bergen >>> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty >>> Rose City YC >>> Portland, OR >>> >>> Alan, >>> >>> Does Dave Perry’s 2016 RRoS book clarify the difference, if any, between >>> before the start and after crossing the starting line regarding Rule 11 and >>> 14? >>> >>> It has been a while since I read Dave’s last RRoS book but I recall >>> something about the right-of-way boat having more flexibility before the >>> starting gun. >>> >>> Martin >>> Calypso >>> 1970 C&C 43 >>> Seattle >>> >>> From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan >>> Bergen >>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:31 AM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video >>> >>> Blue was allowed to sail her course until she was the give-way boat. As >>> soon as she overlapped Camelot, she was the give-way boat, and had to keep >>> clear. When a give-way boat is so close to a right-of-way boat, such that >>> the right-of-way boat cannot turn in either direction without immediately >>> touching the give-way boat, the give-way boat has violated her obligation >>> to keep clear. They do not have to touch in order to prove that Blue did >>> not keep clear. See Dave Perry's "Understanding The Racing Rules of >>> Sailing through 2016, page 96. In addition, the right-of-way boat must >>> take the appropriate action to avoid hitting the give-way boat, when it >>> appears that the give-way boat is not going to keep clear, after which she >>> can protest the give-way boat. >>> >>> There is no requirement for either boat to communicate with the other boat, >>> but it is prudent to do so. If Camelot had called to Blue to head up, or >>> yelled "leeward boat" or "no room", it might have been enough to keep the >>> boats from colliding. If Blue couldn't control her direction, she could >>> have called to Camelot to fall off, that she couldn't steer away, Camelot >>> might have been able to fall off and avoid the crash. She then could have >>> protested Blue. Since both boats broke rules of part 2 of the Racing Rules >>> of Sailing (Blue-Rule 11, Same tack Overlapped; Camelot-Rule 14, Avoiding >>> Contact), both boats should have been penalized by retiring from the race >>> (Rule 44.1(b). >>> Alan Bergen >>> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty >>> Rose City YC >>> Portland, OR >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5740 - Release Date: 04/12/13 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5740 - Release Date: 04/12/13 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5742 - Release Date: 04/13/13 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jim Watts >>> Paradigm Shift >>> C&C 35 Mk III >>> Victoria, BC >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim Watts >> Paradigm Shift >> C&C 35 Mk III >> Victoria, BC >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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