Mark Barrachois Industries outside of Tatamagiouche, NS has made a number of C&C 30 cradles and done a very nice job. Dana Hunter used to bring in 30s, refurbish them and resell them - so they built a lot of cradles for him. If you email me I can give you Dana's tel #. He also has a world of info on what to look for in a used C&C 30 purchase as he bought over half a dozen
WRT the crane. Since you are building one you would just leave the aft end of the cradle open the same as is done on trailers that are used for launching and hauling boats. This would minimize the clearance needed to use a crane. Since you are building the cradle it is easy to have it customized to your needs Regards Mike Nut Case http://users.eastlink.ca/~mhoyt -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:30 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible C&C 30 purchase Graham, Now I understand the clearance issue - the ability to lift the boat up on top of the cradle. I guess that could be a challenge. Anyone know the height of the boat above waterline? I guess it really depends on the length of the lifting straps, boat width, and height of the boat - plus the design of the cradle -- might not know for sure until the first time we try a haul. I didn't think about the fact that I would need a cradle rather than jack stands - I'll have to add that to the budget (guessing $2000-2500). Might be able to find used. Thanks to everyone for all the comments. If I buy the boat I'm sure I will have a ton more questions. Yes, I'm aware the mast on the 30 can't be hand stepped. I watched a different 30 footer pulling the mast back in the fall - looks like a pretty tricky job even with a crane. I know the weight may be pushing the crane capacity - they don't have a load cell that I know of, but I figure it's technically below the weight, I'll make sure I'm minimizing load before it's hauled. I'm pretty sure the current boat I'm looking at is a fin keel, not shoal. Not planning any racing, but who knows as kids get older. I'll likely leave the main traveler right where it is for a while. Looked at a lot of boat options. Also like the C&C 29's. Saw one 33 for sale, good price, but I thought that would be getting too big for me to solo and maintain. Likely not that much different, but I have to admit part of me is scared of the jump, the 24 is so easy to handle and maintain, I'm worried I'm biting off a lot more effort rather than more sailing! Mark --------------------- Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) Bedford Chiropractic www.bedfordchiro.ca --------------------- There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 19/03/2013 7:44 AM, Graham Collins wrote: > Hi Mark > Belinda would know better than I, so that sounds good. > > The extra expense of the big crane is no biggie, but the scheduling > flexibility is indeed a good reason to use club crane. > > Not sure how to figure out if there is enough clearance for lifting > the 30 - maybe ask Travis what boat is the biggest and measure the > vertical clearance on it. > > And if you are sailing it back don't forget to factor in buying > (having made) a cradle. If you haul with the big crane you can use > jackstands, but with the club crane you obviously need a cradle. Mine > was made by Yachtsmiths over in Dartmouth, it is pretty solid! :-) > > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 > > On 2013-03-19 1:18 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote: >> Graham, >> I asked Belinda what the max capacity was for the club crane when I >> started thinking about bigger boats - she told me the max lift is >> 9000lbs - so the 30 should be fine. I'm trying to stay within the >> club capacity a)to save the extra expense of the big crane haul and >> b)makes timing for launch and haul easier rather than being scheduled >> by the big crane availability. >> As for height clearance - I'm not sure what I'd be looking at. I know >> I had a problem with my Mirage 24 on the club crane - the mast was >> too short and the back stay tangled with the hoist -- I had to remove >> the stay the one time I lifted the boat with the mast in place. >> Not sure how the C&C 30 would fair in that case, but also not sure if >> I'd leave the mast up for winter - dropping the mast on the 24 was a >> 2 person job by hand, I'm guessing the mast on the 30 is a whole lot >> heavier!!! -- I'll get into those questions with this list later if I >> have the boat. >> >> As for some of the other suggestions. The boat I currently most >> interested in has a new diesel in 2000 (Yanmar 18Hp) and a new poly >> fuel tank in 2010. The boat is in salt water (Long Island) - possibly >> with original rigging. >> The boat is a 1979 - no teak/holly floor, but the mast should already >> be a bit higher up and not the "roller/reefing" style. >> The current mainsheet traveler position looks difficult (easy to >> tangle crew, can't use cockpit table under sail and looks hard to >> sheet in and out from the helm) -- that said is it safe to move the >> traveler to forward of the dodger? - I'd think that would be a huge >> change of forces to have it mid-boom rather than end of boom. >> I'll put the thru-hulls on the list of upgrades if I get the boat, as >> well as making sure the waste tank is solid. >> >> Thanks for all the info. The price on the boat is good (under $16000 >> US) - but I'll need to get it home from NY - so I'm trying to decide >> between a professional captain delivery, shipping it or sailing it >> back myself with a couple buddies. >> If all looks good when my SailNet contact checks it out next week >> then I'll be looking into a proper survey - make sure the rigging and >> engine are solid for trip back to NS. >> >> BTW - any thoughts on importing a boat from the US to Canada? I'm >> assuming I'll just be paying HST on the purchase price (I bought a >> little bowrider power boat in Boston a few years back - pretty simple >> crossing to border, just paid HST --- but not sure how it works if >> I'm sailing home) >> >> Mark >> >> >> --------------------- >> Dr. Mark Bodnar >> B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) >> Bedford Chiropractic >> www.bedfordchiro.ca >> --------------------- >> >> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. >> - George Santayana >> >> On 18/03/2013 9:03 PM, Graham Collins wrote: >>> Hello Mark >>> You might want to recheck with the club, I believe the rating on the >>> club crane is about 6000 lbs and from what I see the C&C 30 is >>> around 8000 lbs. Also check the height clearance. I previously had >>> an Aloha 27, it was a tight fit. I'm not aware of any 30 footers >>> that get hauled with that crane. That said, the annual big crane >>> launch and haul isn't much of a problem. And I have not examined the >>> numbers, it may be possible. >>> >>> I've sailed on Jeff's C&C 30, it is a fine boat and sailed well in >>> what I'd guess was > 25 knots. He keeps it at AYC. There are lots >>> of others in the neighborhood. >>> >>> Hope the search goes well. >>> >>> Graham Collins >>> Secret Plans >>> C&C 35-III #11 >>> BBYC, Halifax >>> >>> On 2013-03-18 4:33 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I'm new to the list. Just joined up as I'm getting serious about >>>> moving up to a bigger boat. >>>> Currently sail a Mirage 24 in Halifax NS Canada, bought it last >>>> year, loved getting back on the water, but it's a little small to >>>> spend much time aboard with my 4 kids. >>>> >>>> After extensive online research and scanning Yachtworld and local >>>> boats I've narrowed down on trying to get a C&C 30. Seems to be the >>>> right size - small enough to singlehand, and light enough for our >>>> club crane to hoist, but still big enough to spend some time out on >>>> the water. >>>> >>>> I've read most everything on the C&C site, including a bunch of the >>>> mailing list archives. Was on a local boat here the other day - >>>> getting an idea of the size and space. >>>> >>>> I know the mast step is prone to softening, and the ports will >>>> likely need replacement (if not done already), plus there are the >>>> typical issues with the deck core, chainplates, standing rigging >>>> etc that can be problematic with any older boats. >>>> >>>> Any specific advice on things I need to watch for? I have someone >>>> I've chatted with on SailNet who has offered to check out one boat >>>> for me (in Long Island NY there is a nice looking 30 for sale - new >>>> diesel in 2000, well fitted out) >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for the advice, >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. >>>> - George Santayana >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
