That rather generous. After all, just getting the sail out front more is faster alone; to get the added sail area is a gift. Of course, you'd better pay close attention to polars if you're racing W/Ls. Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30 STL
--- On Thu, 2/14/13, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap Review To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 8:29 AM Proposed and approved at last handicap committee meeting, GYA (Gulf Yachting Association) PHRF rules allow a non-sprit boat to add a sprit up to 2.5 feet and an asymmetrical chute up to 123% of a standard symmetrical chute for a -3 second adjustment. Sprits longer than 2.5 feet will get case by case review. Dennis C. From: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap Review Tom; I thought that one of the Chessie sailors had indicated that the penalty for a long pole in Chessie Phrf was -3 for a pole longer than J but less than 110% of J, and -6 for a pole longer than 110% or more of J. I’ve spent the last half hour reading the documents on the Chessie PHRF site, and cannot find this in the rules. But the rules do say you can tack your asymmetric to the stem, a pole, or a bowsprit. If a pole, the max unpenalized SPL = J. If a Bowsprit, the max unpenalized BS = J. So you will take a hit if you use a bowsprit. The upside may be that the max unpenalized foot for an asymmetrical AF on a pole = 180% of J, but the max unpenalized AF for an asymmetrical on a bowsprit is 180% of BS. So if you use a bowsprit longer than J, you can also use an oversized asymmetrical spin with no further penalty. That may not be a lot of consolation unless you have enough cash on hand for another spinnaker. Jake is correct. The best thing for you to do is to give your local PHRF rep a call and ask him. You’ll find a list of all the PHRF reps at http://www.phrfchesbay.com/hdp12399.htm . I was thinking about updating mu old Chessie PHRF rating to use in Joe Della Barbra’s race in July. But as I look at all the requirements on the form, I may pass and just go with my NCPHRF plus 6 seconds. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of TOM VINCENT Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:32 PM To: C&C Forum Subject: Stus-List Handicap Review Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several responses, basically no one really knows the answer. My question was, what penalty would I incur by adding a bow sprit to my foredeck for flying the asymmetrical spinnaker. I had purchased a Forespar sprit at the Annapolis Boat show with plans on installing it this spring. I race on the Bohemia River which is on the upper end of the Chesapeake Bay. We use the PHRF of the Chesapeake Bay as our guideline for our Wednesday night races. I have been racing the C&C 36' cb for 5 years and have won the series 2 times and my worst finish overall was a 3rd for the season. We have 15 boats in the fleet and have an average of 10 boats racing. I am the big boat of the fleet with a rating of 147 non spinnaker and 127 with spinnaker. I was using the ATN sock for two years and then purchased a bag as a turtle with better results. We have learned how to gybe the shoot with a degree of success with practice. The sprit should make it much easier to gybe, as I understand I can do an inside gybe with the sprit. The assym has a girth of 180% and a sail area of 1090, it is one big red sail. When we are on a broad reach the boat takes off, down wind we sail off about 20 degrees and gybe. I hope this info helps a few members. Tom Vincent Frolic II Chesapeake City, MD _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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