Tom, I emailed my friend who is a ChesBay PHRF rating guru. He said they 
consider each case separately, and have not come up with firm guidelines. He 
said you can send in your information (specifically how long the sprit is and 
that you will not be moving it around, etc.) and they will give you a rating.

But, if you are doing what our Wed Nite and local Saturday groups do, you have 
your own set of guidelines which are "based" on CB PHRF (which I gather you 
are, with both spin and non spin PHRF numbers, which they do not support), then 
you have to join PHRF and CBYRA and it may not be worth the trouble.

I am the "Barracuda" (rater) for our local "Herring Island Sailing Fleet" and 
we also use PHRF as a guideline, but have our own rules regarding 
spin/non-spin/asym-spin, as we don't have enough boats to support two fleets 
and some folks like to fly a chute in calm water, but don't have the 
crew/skill/guts to do so when it is not calm. We just have a percentage of PHRF 
adjustment for non spinnaker and for cruising spinnakers tacked to the bow. We 
alter ratings each race if the participant changes his/her mind.

Hope this helps, 
Gary
St. Michaels
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: TOM VINCENT 
  To: C&C Forum 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:32 PM
  Subject: Stus-List Handicap Review


  Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several 
responses, basically no one really knows the answer. My question was, what 
penalty would I incur by adding a bow sprit to my foredeck for flying the 
asymmetrical spinnaker. I had purchased a Forespar sprit at the Annapolis Boat 
show with plans on installing it this spring. I race on the Bohemia River which 
is on the upper end of the Chesapeake Bay. We use the PHRF of the Chesapeake 
Bay as our guideline for our Wednesday night races. I have been racing the C&C 
36' cb for 5 years and have won the series 2 times and my worst finish overall 
was a 3rd for the season. We have 15 boats in the fleet and have an average of 
10 boats racing. I am the big boat of the fleet with a rating of 147 non 
spinnaker and 127 with spinnaker. I was using the ATN sock for two years and 
then purchased a bag as a turtle with better results. We have learned how to 
gybe the shoot with a degree of success with practice. The sprit should make it 
much easier to gybe, as I understand I can do an inside gybe with the sprit. 
The assym has a girth of 180% and a sail area of 1090, it is one big red sail. 
When we are on a broad reach the boat takes off, down wind we sail off about 20 
degrees and gybe. I hope this info helps a few members.

  Tom Vincent
  Frolic II
  Chesapeake City, MD



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