Rick and Lee, thanks for the info.

I replaced my forestay about 3 years ago when I installed a roller furler.

I am waiting on prices for replacing the shrouds- and based on price will
pick between rod and wire.

the rigger recomended going with wire for the backstay as a simple way to
save some money.

Does anyone have experience with getting the ends of their spreaders
redone- mine are very corroded- especially the upper spreaders.

I like the idea of leather spreader boots, I think I will do that next time.

Dave


On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net>wrote:

> In the summer of 2010, we fell off a 4 ft wave while close reaching in 16
> knots true, and something went POP. Sounded like a .22 going off; and I
> said “F***! Something broke!”****
>
> ** **
>
> One of the jump stays between the first and second spreaders, which I
> later learned is officially called the D2 shroud, was waving around in the
> breeze.****
>
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>
> I’d already given thought to inspecting the 34 year old rod rigging. Now
> that something had broken I obviously had to make it a priority.****
>
> ** **
>
> Turns out that the threaded toggle in the turnbuckle used to tension the
> shroud had broken. I learned that the recommendation is to replace all the
> threaded toggles used in rod rigging every 10 years because of the
> possibility of crevice corrosion where the threaded rods are swaged into
> the hex in the middle. My rigger also said that dye checking the rod heads
> would only identify cracks, but would not identify all causes of failure.
> Cost of the dye check would be a bit over $2k with yard fees for unstopping
> the mast.****
>
> ** **
>
> For a full inspection of the old rod, it would need to be removed, packed,
> and shipped to Navtec for testing. Cost would be about $3500, plus any
> reheading or replacement based on the outcome of the testing.****
>
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>
> For about the same cost as the inspection of the rod, I replaced the whole
> standing rigging with Dyform wire. The wire is a scoosh larger in diameter
> (about 1/16th) than the #10 rod being replaced, but the break strength of
> the wire is actually higher than the strength of the rod being replaced.
> The upper end of the wire uses swaged fittings that fit the ball sockets of
> the rod rigging (so no mast tang changes), and the lower fittings are
> Stalocks. I changed the deck level turnbuckles to open style to make
> adjustment easier. On the diagonals, I retained the internal style
> turnbuckles and replaced all the toggles so I would not need to change any
> of the joint fittings on the end of the spreaders.  Another advantage of
> the change to a wire headstay was that it allowed me to install the Bamar
> roller furler ; Bamar does not recommend having a roller on rod rigging
> because dirt in the bearings can scratch the rod and create a stress riser
> that weakens the rod.****
>
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>
> BTW, the ends of my spreaders were also corroded, but not so much they
> could not be cleaned up and reused. I changed over to leather spreader
> boots that are sewn on, instead of the nylon pads that were put on in 2003.
> My rigger thought the leather boots will allow better flushing by rain
> water and better airflow to prevent corrosion of the aluminum ends of the
> spreaders.****
>
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>
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>
> Rick Brass****
>
> Washington, NC****
>
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Folsom <dfolsom...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 2:41 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Replacing Spreaders and Standing Rigging****
>
> Hi fellow C&C owners. ****
>
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>
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>
> Can anyone tell me about their experience with replacing their standing
> rigging?****
>
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>
> thanks****
>
> ** **
>
> Dave Folsom****
>
> 1981 C&C 36 Rebel Maid****
>
> San Diego****
>
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