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Have a look at the "tech corner" of the Harken on line catalogue where you
will find several outhaul systems. I want to run the outhaul line back to
the cockpit on my 33-2 (standard rig), so I'm going with the 5:1 internal
(looks to be close to what is there now) with the modification of running
the line forward to the gooseneck to a block on a tang, down to the mast
collar to another block then through a deck organizer back to a clutch.
I've noticed that the racing rig for the 33-2 has three sheaves at the
forward end (two for reefing lines and a center one for the outhaul)
unfortunately the standard rig only has two. Which brings me to this
question. Does anyone know who the manufacturer was for '86 vintage rigs?
I've looked at the Rig Rite site and the Kenyon sections look about right.
They have some interesting boom ends with three sheaves ---- of course that
would mean a new boom; etc, etc, etc. ($$$$)
MIke Cullen
Nanaimo BC
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Morse Code, Iriidium (was Captain's License) (Rick Brass)
2. Re: Morse Code, Iriidium (was Captain's License) (Steve Thomas)
3. Outhaul (Joel Aronson)
4. Re: Outhaul (dwight veinot)
5. Re: Outhaul (Dennis C.)
6. Re: Outhaul (Ron Casciato)
7. Re: Outhaul (Joel Aronson)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:00:36 -0500
From: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Morse Code, Iriidium (was Captain's License)
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Will wonders never cease. Perhaps that's a solution to Joel's question about
a bilge alarm - just put the EPIRB on the cabin sole near the mast and make
sure your MMSI number gives your cell phone number. No extra cost for boat
stuff, uses devices you already own, and puts your tax dollars to work. J
Actually, it started me thinking about something I noticed on the SPOT or
GEOS website. I think it's called the SPOT HUB, and in addition to the other
features, it connects to up to 4 wireless sensors and can send a message to
your cell phone for events like high bilge water, low voltage, or
unauthorized entry. I have no idea what it costs or how many lithium AA
batteries it would go through. But it sounds like a lot of technology in a
pretty manageable package.
Rick Brass
Washington, NC
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Coleman
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 12:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Morse Code, Iriidium (was Captain's License)
Interesting story about this, a boat I was checking out at a Salvage dealer
ended up there because it started sinking at its dock. The owner was
actually driving in California when he got a call from the Coast Guard on
his cell phone because his EPRIB went off. Turns out they had launched his
boat in Georgia, and a thru hull or something was inadvertently left open,
got water 2 feet over the floorboards and set it off. So, possibly it COULD
be useful if you were on a ski trip!
Bill Coleman
C&C 39 animated_favicon1
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:21:35 -0500
From: Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Morse Code, Iriidium (was Captain's License)
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I have often thought that there must be some way to rig up a cell phone to
raise the alarm in response to a monitored condition.
The cell phones I've had recently don't document any way to take external
control, but maybe some do.
It ought to be relatively easy to use a computer if the boat is in a marina
or anchorage with Wi-Fi coverage, assuming of course
that enough power is available.
Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Rick Brass
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:01 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Morse Code, Iriidium (was Captain's License)
Will wonders never cease. Perhaps that's a solution to Joel's question about
a bilge alarm - just put the EPIRB on the cabin sole
near the mast and make sure your MMSI number gives your cell phone number.
No extra cost for boat stuff, uses devices you already
own, and puts your tax dollars to work. J
Actually, it started me thinking about something I noticed on the SPOT or
GEOS website. I think it's called the SPOT HUB, and in
addition to the other features, it connects to up to 4 wireless sensors and
can send a message to your cell phone for events like
high bilge water, low voltage, or unauthorized entry. I have no idea what it
costs or how many lithium AA batteries it would go
through. But it sounds like a lot of technology in a pretty manageable
package.
Rick Brass
Washington, NC
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Coleman
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 12:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Morse Code, Iriidium (was Captain's License)
Interesting story about this, a boat I was checking out at a Salvage dealer
ended up there because it started sinking at its dock.
The owner was actually driving in California when he got a call from the
Coast Guard on his cell phone because his EPRIB went off.
Turns out they had launched his boat in Georgia, and a thru hull or
something was inadvertently left open, got water 2 feet over
the floorboards and set it off. So, possibly it COULD be useful if you were
on a ski trip!
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:25:10 -0500
From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Outhaul
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While my teak is bleaching in the garage, I need some advice on my outhaul.
It currently runs to the front of the boom through 2 sheaves back into the
boom and exits the bottom of the boom between the vang and mainsheet where
there is a cam cleat. When I replace my clutches I could run it to the
base of the mast, through the new line organizer to the clutch.
It is the original wire and rope line. I plan to replace it with 3/8
StaySet.
Suggestions?
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Joel
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:49:39 -0400
From: dwight veinot <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Outhaul
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I would definitely do that, Lewmar clutches work great.I have a similar
outhaul setup to what you plan on my 35 MKII.I think there is very little,
i.e. nothing, to be gained in using high price line. any 3/8 braid will work
just fine and whatever brand you choose you won't need to buy much to do
what you want to do so who cares.but you will appreciate the mod.lines lead
to the cockpit which work properly are always an advantage and IMHO
essential when single handing
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: December 29, 2012 3:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Outhaul
While my teak is bleaching in the garage, I need some advice on my outhaul.
It currently runs to the front of the boom through 2 sheaves back into the
boom and exits the bottom of the boom between the vang and mainsheet where
there is a cam cleat. When I replace my clutches I could run it to the base
of the mast, through the new line organizer to the clutch.
It is the original wire and rope line. I plan to replace it with 3/8
StaySet.
Suggestions?
--
Joel
301 541 8551
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:22:49 -0800 (PST)
From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com>
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Sounds like you're close. ?Mine is external to the boom but runs to a block
on a padeye on the aft side of the mast then to a stand up block on the deck
then to a Spinlock PowerCleat by the companionway. ?Functionally the same
set up as you describe.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: Stus-List Outhaul
While my teak is bleaching in the garage, I need some advice on my outhaul.
It currently runs to the front of the boom through 2 sheaves back into the
boom and exits the bottom of the boom between the vang and mainsheet where
there is a cam cleat. ?When I replace my clutches I could run it to the
base of the mast, through the new line organizer to the clutch. ?
It is the original wire and rope line. ?I plan to replace it with 3/8
StaySet.?
Suggestions?
--
Joel
301 541 8551
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:36:24 -0500
From: "Ron Casciato" <rjcasci...@comcast.net>
To: "'Dennis C.'" <capt...@yahoo.com>, <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Outhaul
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Joel: Consensus seems to favor routing the line back to the cockpit and I
would certainly agree....You didn't mention the size of your boat, so I'm
not sure my system would be effective. My 38MKIIC boom has the outhaul line
exiting the underside of the boom near the mast and is routed down to a
block at the mast partner and then through a deck organizer to the
stopper.....one advantage of that is that you can use the winch located on
the cabin top to do adjustments when the load is too great for hand hauling.
However, the line that exits the mast is run into my boom through a 4
purchase set of blocks ...one double block up front and a second double one
further aft. That aft block has a becket that had the "wire" portion back
to exit out of the aft end of the boom for the outhaul shackle.....
I found that after 10 years of this arrangement, the boom kept getting
chewed up by the shackle when the outhaul was adjusted....so this year, I
replaced that portion of the outhaul with a 6-7' section of Amsteel gray
3/8" West marine for short money for a spectra like line......that line now
exits the aft end of the boom and is "tied directly to the main clew.
The system works very smoothly and the Amsteel line has more strength than
the original wire/rope configuration.....
Good luck with your conversion,
Ron C.
Impromptu
C&C 38MKIIC....'77
Mass Bay
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Outhaul
Sounds like you're close. Mine is external to the boom but runs to a block
on a padeye on the aft side of the mast then to a stand up block on the deck
then to a Spinlock PowerCleat by the companionway. Functionally the same
set up as you describe.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: Stus-List Outhaul
While my teak is bleaching in the garage, I need some advice on my outhaul.
It currently runs to the front of the boom through 2 sheaves back into the
boom and exits the bottom of the boom between the vang and mainsheet where
there is a cam cleat. When I replace my clutches I could run it to the base
of the mast, through the new line organizer to the clutch.
It is the original wire and rope line. I plan to replace it with 3/8
StaySet.
Suggestions?
--
Joel
301 541 8551
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:21:34 -0500
From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Ron,
Thanks. I should have mentioned its a 35/3. I don't think there are
blocks inside the boom, but I better check before I cut line.
I thought that was the way to go but wanted the confirmation.
Joel
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 29, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Ron Casciato <rjcasci...@comcast.net> wrote:
Joel: Consensus seems to favor routing the line back to the cockpit and
I would certainly agree????You didn?t mention the size of your boat, so I?m
not sure my system would be effective. My 38MKIIC boom has the outhaul
line exiting the underside of the boom near the mast and is routed down to
a block at the mast partner and then through a deck organizer to the
stopper????.one advantage of that is that you can use the winch located on
the cabin top to do adjustments when the load is too great for hand
hauling.
However, the line that exits the mast is run into my boom through a 4
purchase set of blocks ???one double block up front and a second double one
further aft. That aft block has a becket that had the ?wire? portion back
to exit out of the aft end of the boom for the outhaul shackle????.
I found that after 10 years of this arrangement, the boom kept getting
chewed up by the shackle when the outhaul was adjusted???.so this year, I
replaced that portion of the outhaul with a 6-7? section of Amsteel gray
3/8? West marine for short money for a spectra like line????..that line now
exits the aft end of the boom and is ?tied directly to the main clew.
The system works very smoothly and the Amsteel line has more strength than
the original wire/rope configuration???..
Good luck with your conversion,
Ron C.
Impromptu
C&C 38MKIIC??..?77
Mass Bay
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*On Behalf Of *Dennis C.
*Sent:* Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:23 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Outhaul
Sounds like you're close. Mine is external to the boom but runs to a block
on a padeye on the aft side of the mast then to a stand up block on the
deck then to a Spinlock PowerCleat by the companionway. Functionally the
same set up as you describe.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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*From:* Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
*To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:25 PM
*Subject:* Stus-List Outhaul
While my teak is bleaching in the garage, I need some advice on my outhaul.
It currently runs to the front of the boom through 2 sheaves back into the
boom and exits the bottom of the boom between the vang and mainsheet where
there is a cam cleat. When I replace my clutches I could run it to the
base of the mast, through the new line organizer to the clutch.
It is the original wire and rope line. I plan to replace it with 3/8
StaySet.
Suggestions?
--
Joel
301 541 8551
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