If adding significant weight to the keel (increasing the righting moment), then you should take into account the increased load on the rig.
--Seb On Nov 22, 2012, at 16:02, dwight veinot wrote: > The real problem with reducing draft that way is that the keel and the rudder > end up in almost the same plane and that is bad for grounding, otherwise the > bulb works fine…if there is any way possible to be content with the deeper > draft then don’t do the mod which reduces the draft…with a 29II it would not > hurt to add some weight to the bottom of the existing deep draft keel with a > bulb…about 300-400 pounds with a split torpedo bulb would work real good in > my opinion…but that would depend on where you sail…predominantly light wind > no change required…around here where our coastal winds are predominantly > above 15 apparent to weather in the summer afternoons the added ballast would > be appreciated > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruno > Lachance > Sent: November 22, 2012 4:20 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutting my keel > > > Hi, > > A friend of mine did the job himself on his 29-II with the help and support > of the guys at Marsmetal in Ontario. He took the measurements, cut the keel > (chainsaw), draw the print and order the kit. It's a pretty big job, but very > feasable if you have the time to do it right. Probably for half the cost. My > friend is really happy with result, with the new height of the boat he can > now tow his boat down to florida on its trailer for the winter and then come > back! the performance loss under sail is minimal in his opinion. > > There' a lot of info on that procedure on their website: > > http://www.marskeel.com/ > > By the way i think they were the manufacturer for C&C, so they have the > templates, design, everything to do it right. I met another happy customer > who did business with them to reduce the draft of his 34. A trip to the > Bahamas was his motivation. > > I looked at this project very closely before buying my 33-II, i was afraid of > the deep draft, but finally i love the boat so much as is, i would never be > able to modify the design, i prefer to modify my schedule instead and work > with the tides. But i understand that some people just have no other choices > and love the C&C! so what can you do! > > Bruno Lachance > Bécassine, C&C 33 II (1987) > > > From: joseph.va...@vallegroup.com > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:49:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutting my keel > > Ron, > > Thanks for the input. I'll check them out. Happy Thanksgiving. > > Joe > > From: Ron Casciato > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 1:20 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutting my keel > > Joe: > I stand corrected.... It was Burr Brothers that did the Catalina 36. > Great results....... > Ron C. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 22, 2012, at 10:22 AM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: > > Joe, > > In Marion there are two yards...Bardens and Burr Brothers. Given a choice > for quality I would go with Burr (pricey though). > > You may want to speak with Triad in Mattappoisett. Quality and reasonable > prices. Good guys too. > > Happy Thanksgiving! > > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > > From: rjcasci...@comcast.net > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:05:08 -0500 > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutting my keel > > > > Hello Joe: > > > > A friend of mine had this done to his Catalina 36 aboaut 5 years > > ago.........he needed a shallow draft for the Charlotte Harbor in Florida > > where he moved prior to this project. > > > > He used the Brewer's yard in Marion, MA and while I didn't watch the > > process, the result has been very satisfactory........he's tough to beat in > > his class down there. > > > > I'd contact Brewer's and get their take on this modification. I do remember > > that he offered that it was more expensive than he had originally > > budgeted.......I suspect it came in around 8-10K. > > > > I might also look for a deeper mooring spot....... > > > > Good luck, > > > > Ron Casciato > > Impromptu > > C&C 38MKIIC....'77 > > Mass Bay > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joseph > > Valle > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:47 PM > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutting my keel > > > > I own a C&C 29' Mark II. I am contemplating cutting my keel about 14 inches > > to accommodate a shallow mooring spot. Mars Metal from Canada makes a keel > > bulb that will bolt to the remaining keel to make up for weight and righting > > moment. Has anyone had experience with this? > > > > Joseph R. Valle > > Chairman & C.E.O. > > The Valle Group, Inc. > > 70 East Falmouth Highway, Suite 3 > > East Falmouth, MA 02536 > > Phone 508-548-1450 > > Cell 508-566-3441 > > joseph.va...@vallegroup.com > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > > Persuasion > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:38 PM > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Stus-List Fw: Photos needed > > > > Anybody with a 37 would know. For that matter anybody with a 35 would know > > also. > > > > > > Mike > > S/V Persuasion > > C&C 37 K/CB > > Stormont Yacht Club > > http://www.stormontyachtclub.ca/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pete Shelquist > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:51 PM > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Photos needed > > > > I have a nice shot of a 37 I'll send in. It's a better looking boat than > > what's listed and they won't know the difference. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 7:42 PM > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Photos needed > > > > Folks, I do not know what version 35 they want -- they probably don't know > > either. > > > > If you are sending me a photo: > > a) send it to s...@cncphotoalbum.com > > b) images should be high-res, jpeg format and not thumbnail size. > > > > I'll send them what I get. > > > > Stu > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Graham Collins > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 7:39 PM > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Photos needed > > > > Hi Stu > > Which version 35, and to what email address? > > > > Graham Collins > > Secret Plans > > C&C 35-III #11 > > > > > > Stu wrote: > > > I have just received an email from BoatUS Publications: > > > We are updating our online boat reviews and looking for a good photo > > > of a C&C 35, C&C 99 and C&C Landfall 38 sailboat, showing the whole > > > boats well, preferably under sail. Would you be able to help me? We > > > would give credit to the photographer of course. > > > If you have any photos that qualify, send them to me and I'll send > > > them to BoatUS after I gloat over them and paste a bunch on the Photo > > > Album - after all it is a photo album. > > > Stu > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2629/5905 - Release Date: 11/19/12 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the > C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2629/5411 - Release Date: 11/22/12 > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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