Keith,
Exactly. The rule changed. Working roller furler headsails can be changed
while racing.
Dennis C.
>________________________________
> From: "Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR" <keith.morgenst...@navy.mil>
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:07 AM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast rake adjustment
>
>Russ may be on to something here.
>
>Why race with a furler? Has your PHRF rule changed to allow a sail change
>while still taking the furling credit? Or more credit for the furler than
>before?
>(Our Chesapeake Bay PHRF hasn't changed either of these that I know of)
>
>We ditched the furler (and furling credit) a few years ago to be able to swap
>the #1 with the #3 if conditions dictated.
>
>-Keith Morgenstern
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Russ & Melody [mailto:russ...@telus.net]
>Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 13:22
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast rake adjustment
>
>Yeah, as Rich says.
>
>And next year let's do a mast replacement on her. Say, a carbonF & double
>spreader, 7/8, C/Ps moved inboard.
>Sized to current jibs so PHRF won't notice the change? :)
>
>Now seriously Dennis,
>Do you race with the roller furling sail or have jibs that tack to the deck?
>
> Cheers, Russ
> Sweet 35 mk-1
>
>At 08:51 AM 08/09/2012, you wrote:
>
>
> Keep going;). Extreme is good.
>
> Rich
>
> On 2012-09-08, at 9:46, "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Chuck,
>
> I'm trying to keep the drum as close to the deck as possible. When
>re-assembled, I'm trying to have the furler turnbuckle close to being
>two-blocked. That's why it's critical to get this right.
>
> This is really an example of extreme rig tweaking.
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
>
>
> From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net >
>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 8:21 AM
>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast rake adjustment
>
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> Before ordering the new headstay, I would experiment by adding a
>toggle to the bottom of the headstay. A toggle at the top sounds like someone
>reheaded the rod and made it too short? Is there a toggle on the backstay
>that you can remove and use on the headstay?
>
> Setup your rig, go sailing. See if it works how you want, then order
>the new stay to that length.
>
>
> I have read that 1 degree of mast rake is a boat designer's target.
>Sailmakers like more rake, especially for light air. Some tuning guides (J35)
>suggest adding a 2" toggle to the headstay when racing in less than 15 knots
>and removing that when true wind is above. Some of this is driven by weather
>helm. You know your boat best.
>
>
> Chuck
>
> Resolute
>
> 1990 C&C 34R
>
> Atlantic City, NJ
>
>________________________________
>
> From: "Jake Brodersen" <captain_j...@cox.net>
>
> To: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 8:56:01 AM
>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast rake adjustment
>
>
> Dennis,
>
>
>
> Instead of lengthening the forestay, can you move the butt of the mast
>forward any? I think a ½†of movement at the base of the mast should give
>you at least 5†at the masthead.
>
>
>
> Jake
>
>
>
>
>
> Jake Brodersen
>
> C&C 35 Mk-III
>
> "Midnight Mistress
>
> Hampton VA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
><mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
><mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 6:14 PM
>
> To: Cn Clist
>
> Subject: Stus-List Mast rake adjustment
>
>
>
> OK, check my math and thinking on this one.
>
>
>
> I want to increase the rake in Touche's mast. I made some changes in
>the rig a few months ago which brought the masthead forward so the plumb from
>the masthead is only about 6 inches aft of the gooseneck. It used to be 9-10
>inches to get 1 degree of rake.
>
>
>
> The foretriangle is close to a right triangle. I=44' and J = 14.5'.
>If I add the 6 inches to J (for the plumb drop from the masthead), I get a
>right triangle with sides of 44.0 and 15.0 and a hypotenuse of 46.487 (the
>forestay).
>
>
>
> So, if I want to move the masthead aft another 6 inches, I end up with
>a triangle of 44.0, 15.5 and 46.650. The difference in the lengths of the
>hypotenuses (hypoteni?) is 0.163 or about 2 inches. By my thinking, I need a
>new forestay about 2 inches longer than the existing one.
>
>
>
> There's more to the story than this, like it's really 5 inches each
>for the plumb and rake increase and I'm removing an extra toggle from the top
>but the math and method should be right.
>
>
>
> Am I right?
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
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