I'm a little late to this discussion.  But here's my two cents.

If you value your time for doing anything other than maintaining a mail server, then don't host your own. It takes some effort (not a lot, but enough to be noticeable) to ensure your mail server is up to date and not pwnd by the latest script/virus. Not to mention that all it takes is one blacklisting on the spam lists to make for a bad day. I used to run my own mail server and was finding that I had to contribute 2 or 3 hours a week to keep it up to snuff and the spam listing issues just became too much of a hassle altogether.

Instead, I would recommend a cheap hosted mail service somewhere. I'm personally using Rackspace at the moment - $2/month/mailbox, with 25GB storage and good spam filtering. The handful of accounts means I'm spending less than $20 a month and I feel my time is better spent doing other things (like having a life, or work, or my latest hobby....)

My thoughts.

Shawn

On 14-08-25 05:41 PM, John Jardine wrote:
Hey Gustin,


AFAIK Switzerland is the only nation that has meaningful legislation
Iceland also makes the list (and would be my selection):
https://nomadcapitalist.com/2013/12/15/top-5-best-countries-host-website-data-privacy/

Having said that legislation does not actually protect your data.
  Technology and processes do.
Amen Brother!

I'm just thinking that if I have to go through setting up email I may as
well do it in a reasonably secure way.

Skipping the lawyer discussions on monitoring/capturing stored
communications vs live communications ... If you don't store your
email/files/whatever on a remote system you don't have to secure the
storage, only the communication.  This is still a difficult problem but
there are reasonably good solutions for this.

Cheers,
John J.

On Mon, 2014-08-25 at 14:54 -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote:
There is no "safe" place to store your data.   FISA means that any
claim that there is legal protection for your data is utter nonsense.
  AFAIK Switzerland is the only nation that has meaningful legislation
covering this, so if you need that checkbox to make someone happy,
then this is your place.  All of the infrastructure between you and
Switzerland is vulnerable, so functionally you have no ultimately safe
options.


Having said that legislation does not actually protect your data.
  Technology and processes do.


It is also worth noting that all encryption does is to slow down
access to the data (assuming the encryption was done correctly).
  While currently this means centuries+, tomorrow's innovations will
eventually bring this down into a useful time frame.  If you have data
that absolutely must not fall into someone else's hands, then storing
it in the public cloud" is simply not an option.


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Greg King <wgk...@shaw.ca> wrote:
         I attended a recent talk by Mark Rasch, Legal, Regulatory and
         Privacy Specialist with Critical Defence, Washington DC, who
         claimed hosting data in the USA is actually safer than in
         Canada because of rules the NSA and others must follow to
         access private data in the USA, but once data is hosted
         anywhere else in the world it is fair game.  Of course being a
         non-American probably gives you less protection in the USA
         than a native, but it is an interesting twist on who the
         powers that be can snoop on.
Greg ______________________________________________________________
         From: "Gustin Johnson" <gus...@meganerd.ca>
         To: "CLUG General" <clug-talk@clug.ca>
         Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2014 8:44:04 AM
         Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Calgary area high-speed ISPs /
         running your own        mail server
Most of the local ISPs that I have used filter inbound and
         outbound port 25 on their "residential" services, which makes
         running a mail server locally problematic without the use of a
         smart host.
Most of the "business" packages do not have this restriction.
          Having said that, a VPS is a whole lot cheaper, I have a
         couple of http://buyvm.net/ VMs which have been excellent
         value.
For those that worry about having their data reside in the US,
         I would recommend https://mykolab.com/, which is a hosted
         kolab solution based out of Switzerland  (Canada provides no
         protection beyond what you would get in the US anyway).
Kolab and Citadel are my two favourite messaging/collaboration
         suites.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Bogi <khan...@shaw.ca> wrote:
                 I would suggest Shaw, they have a commercial add-on to
                 the residential package
                 with a fixed ip address and no filtering, you can
                 pretty much run anything on
                 that box. I can't see why you couldn't do the same on
                 a residential package
                 with dyndns setting for mx..
                 experhost has a linux vps offering, around $20 a
                 month, and you can run a mail
                 server there :-) along with your own named and
                 whatever else you may want.
Cheers
                 Sam
On August 18, 2014 Monday 23:43:36 John Jardine wrote:
                 > Hi,
                 >
                 > Tried to send a similar message earlier but it
                 appears to have been
                 > lost.
                 >
                 > My webmail provider (spamcop.net) is converting to
                 be a mail-forwarder,
                 > not a mail provider.  That leaves me looking for a
                 replacement.
                 >
                 > I am quite happy to run my own mail server but most
                 ISPs disallow that.
                 >
                 > Any suggestions for either a secure email provider
                 or an ISP that allows
                 > customers to run their own mail servers?
                 >
                 > Thanks,
                 > John J.
                 >
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